From a 92 rating to 74 just because he's 34??

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Quote: Originally Posted by garyjr33

Using the Yankees is horrible with this in effect...haha. I am in September now. And Teixeira is a 70. ARod is a 66. Beltran is a 72.

Each Sim is different. I am in 2016 and Tex is an 82. Pujols is an 83.

There is not a linear path.

2016 and Koji is a 64 Overall but about to win the RP of the year award.

Stop caring about the Overalls...

[MLB Bob]

Wheres Youkilis playing now?

[Steven78]

He's playing in retirement leagues.

[geisterhome]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knight165

Well...that's not really how the ratings for players on default rosters work. Last 3 weighted....which still includes his phenomenal 2012 Met season still factoring in. ...and 2-5 with a 5.49 ERA....if he keeps it up....he will be a 60 if he's lucky. But I think Lorne gave him some extra love on '15 anyway....nothing about his 2014 season screamed the ratings he got(I'm not going to even discuss the ridiculous OVR rating that most of these talks surround...what an inherently irrelevant rating that they never should have put in the game in the first place) M.K Knight165

The OVR in the game is a much better evaluation of a players ability than you make it sound, for sure it sounds pretty cool claiming not to even bother looking at it since this is way too shallow but in fact it often gives you a very good indication of the quality of a player. And when it comes to regression it becomes even more relevant since players decline across the board pretty evenly.

[jvalverde88]

Quote: Originally Posted by tabarnes19

Each Sim is different. I am in 2016 and Tex is an 82. Pujols is an 83. There is not a linear path. 2016 and Koji is a 64 Overall but about to win the RP of the year award. Stop caring about the Overalls...

This so much, pay attention to what attributes are declining and by how much. I have Bartolo's OVR declining but he's still in the top 5 of the NL in K's for me.

[thescottyglasgow]

Quote: Originally Posted by tabarnes19

Each Sim is different. I am in 2016 and Tex is an 82. Pujols is an 83. There is not a linear path. 2016 and Koji is a 64 Overall but about to win the RP of the year award. Stop caring about the Overalls...

I think that is because of their monthly potential updates. If potentials remain constant then I know in previous years the player will increase and decrease at a set age a set amount no matter what circumstances up or down its set. The overalls do not matter to me.

[CaseIH]

Quote: Originally Posted by jvalverde88

This so much, pay attention to what attributes are declining and by how much. I have Bartolo's OVR declining but he's still in the top 5 of the NL in K's for me.

I think that's the key. IMO when you just jump right in and sim seasons without really making adjustments to training and such effects declines in players ratings. Personally I have always felt with any game when you just simulate entire seasons you wont necessarily get accurate results, to where you would if spending more time evaluating and running your organization. I play 30 team control I I do keep a eye out for the other teams I don't play when it comes to training and will change some of them that don't make since with a players age or a players position.


Maybe Im wrong and simming entire seasons don't effect anything strangely, it just something I have always been leary of, and maybe these guys or some of them having issues with regression haven't actually just simmed right thru seasons all at once either.


I do know regression in this game has had its issues since I can remember, and I don't think its ever going to be perfect to where everyone is happy as they cant tell the future, and who knows what the future holds for Trout or any player for that a matter, I have seen it happen several time in my years of watching baseball where some guys have fallen off a cliff early, although I would say that happens to pitchers more so than hitters over the years. I know they said they worked on this and performance can stave off regression to a point, but it sounds like it might need some more tweaking.

[DexterHol]

Quote: Originally Posted by braves_94

I just don't agree with this at all. Most players go through a slow decline unless injuries occur. It's rare a player hits an ability wall. Rare. BJ Upton? Though Albert Pujols isn't living up to his massive deal, he's still a productive player. Nothing that would warrant a huge slide in game ratings. Joey Hamilton? His body is deteriorating due to injuries. In fact, most of the decline player's experience is due to bodies that can no longer hold up to a 162 game schedule. But when healthy they still are good players. Alex Rodriguez. Players just don't suck one day. It makes no sense. Derek Jeter fell off after breaking his ankle. It took 6 injuries to finally do in Griffey. Ryan Howard was a negative player due to his defense before signing that monster extension. Dan Uggla, suffered a severe concussion and was never the same. Same for Marcus Giles. So I can rattle of 50 players that had typical regression compared to those who just get old and hit a ratings free fall.

I agree to this and may I add about Uggla, that his Lasik surgery on 2013 might have been an issue as well, apart from the concussion. I had Lasik surgery myself around that time and although my myopia was corrected, it took me around a month to get used to how things looked like afterwards. A baseball player's vision is not something that should be tampered with, imo.