Scoring Questions

[countryboy]

LOL

I got myself so confused reading that

Yes whomever pitched the bottom of the tenth should be credited with the win

[zippy2212]

Like others said, in scenario 1 Rondon should have gotten a save. I've had this happen to me before. The correct pitcher (who pitched the bottom of the last inning got the win) but no save was awarded.

Scenario 2: Haren would get a loss even if he gave up 1 run and Wood gave up 8 as long as the Cubs never tied the game.

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[redsox4evur]

Actually reading it again. I can't tell on the second one. If you took Haren out right away after the 7 runs in 2 innings, I stand by my first answer.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by zippy2212

Scenario 2: Haren would get a loss even if he gave up 1 run and Wood gave up 8 as long as the Cubs never tied the game. Sent from my XT1045 using Tapatalk

Cubs were up 8-7 when the 8th and 9th runs were given up by Wood. Wood should get the loss.

[MatrixTN]

Quote: Originally Posted by Violinguy

Scenario #1 - Cubs tie the game late and take that tie into extra innings. Rizzo hits a 3-run homer in the top of the 11th. I bring in Rondon to close it out and despite allowing a hit, he gets three outs with no runs allowed. Shouldn't Rondon get the save here? He was not credited with one. By its very definition, I thought that was what a "save" was. Scenario #2 - Dan Haren gets blown up, allowing 7 runs in the first two innings. The Cubs then score 8 runs in the game (6 in the 4th and 2 in the 8th), eventually losing 9-8. Haren gets the loss. Why wouldn't the guy (Wood) who gave up runs eight and nine get that loss? Shouldn't the 8th run the Cubs scored get Haren off the hook?

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

Cubs were up 8-7 when the 8th and 9th runs were given up by Wood. Wood should get the loss.

1. Rondon should've been credited a save, the game is finky about saves in extras.

2. Did the Cubs TIE the game BEFORE the opp's 8th-9th were scored? The wording implies they did. If they did, Haren would be ND'd and L should go to Wood. If not, Haren would still be L'd.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by MatrixTN

1. Rondon should've been credited a save, the game is finky about saves in extras. 2. Did the Cubs TIE the game BEFORE the opp's 8th-9th were scored? The wording implies they did. If they did, Haren would be ND'd and L should go to Wood. If not, Haren would still be L'd.

The wording doesn't imply they tied it but that they took the lead.

[MatrixTN]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

The wording doesn't imply they tied it but that they took the lead.

They would still have to at least tie the game to negate the loss on Haren. The Q still stands - If they didn't tie the game before the opp's 9th run, Haren would still be due the loss as it goes to who allowed the lead(-changing) run.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by MatrixTN

They would still have to at least tie the game to negate the loss on Haren. The Q still stands - If they didn't tie the game before the opp's 9th run, Haren would still be due the loss as it goes to who allowed the lead(-changing) run.

They didn't just tie, they took the lead as I've mentioned a few times now:

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

Cubs were up 8-7 when the 8th and 9th runs were given up by Wood. Wood should get the loss.