Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

[tnixen]

I am really getting tired of seeing the CPU AI takeout the starting pitcher after he is pitching a shutout and has only thrown 46 pitches though 6.1 innings! He gets pulled right after giving up a base hit with 1 out in the 6th inning with only 46 pitches thrown. He was dominating me and this was also in exhibition mode it that makes any difference. I have basically seen this kind of thing happen with all versions of MLB The Show. It really is one of the weakest points of the game.

I really hope the CPU AI Bullpen and Manager logic has greatly improved and became much smarter and more like real life coaches and manager decisions in MLB The Show 16!

And to add on to that I would love to also see manager tendencies in MLB The Show some day

Bottom line MLB The Show CPU AI needs to be smarter!!!

[nemesis04]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

Someone needs to be more patient at the plate! 46 pitches through 6.1, you swing-opotamus

But yes there needs to be some tweaking, have you played around with the manager hook slider?

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

I started a thread about this in the sliders sub-forum: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ok-voodoo.html

Hopefully this helps. It helped me a little but yeah it's an issue.

[tnixen]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

Someone needs to be more patient at the plate! 46 pitches through 6.1, you swing-opotamus

But yes there needs to be some tweaking, have you played around with the manager hook slider?

lol I was trying to be patient but most of his pitches looked very hittable. Unfortunately most of the hits were right at fielders. Also no I have not messed with the manager hook sliders. I try to play on everything default as I trust in what the Sony developers are doing. But it looks like the developers need to change the default manager hook slider settings.

By chance I would want to change the manager hook sliders what settings do you recommend?

[tnixen]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

I started a thread about this in the sliders sub-forum: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ok-voodoo.html

Hopefully this helps. It helped me a little but yeah it's an issue.

Thanks for that link I will check it out.

I always play on All Star with default sliders.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

Thanks for that link I will check it out.

I always play on All Star with default sliders.

It basically just says to raise the cpu starter stamina to 7. There are other things but that is what helped the most.

[tessl]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

I am really getting tired of seeing the CPU AI takeout the starting pitcher after he is pitching a shutout and has only thrown 46 pitches though 6.1 innings! He gets pulled right after giving up a base hit with 1 out in the 6th inning with only 46 pitches thrown. He was dominating me and this was also in exhibition mode it that makes any difference. I have basically seen this kind of thing happen with all versions of MLB The Show. It really is one of the weakest points of the game.

I really hope the CPU AI Bullpen and Manager logic has greatly improved and became much smarter and more like real life coaches and manager decisions in MLB The Show 16!

And to add on to that I would love to also see manager tendencies in MLB The Show some day

Bottom line MLB The Show CPU AI needs to be smarter!!!

In manage mode - default sliders - I'm not seeing what your are reporting.

Sometimes with a big lead the CPU will leave the starter in the game to throw 130 or so pitches which few modern era managers. There are not as many throws to first as IRL but in the past there were too many throws to first and I'd rather they leave it like it is than "fix" it. For the most part the CPU manages the games well.

I'm not familiar with exhibition mode, perhaps the limit pitch counts as is the case in exhibition games.

[ryanmc564]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

that doesn't happen to me, sometimes I get swing happy at games that I just try to get thru as quick as possible where the opposing pitcher would have a ridiculous low pitch count and he never gets pulled as long as he is winning.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

that doesn't happen to me, sometimes I get swing happy at games that I just try to get thru as quick as possible where the opposing pitcher would have a ridiculous low pitch count and he never gets pulled as long as he is winning.

What difficulty and slider set are you using?

[tnixen]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

that doesn't happen to me, sometimes I get swing happy at games that I just try to get thru as quick as possible where the opposing pitcher would have a ridiculous low pitch count and he never gets pulled as long as he is winning.

Strange why I am seeing this then

[kaptainkarl76]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

If you play default sliders, it happens more often than not..

[Beatles]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

I have more of a problem with the RP being a lefty when I have like 3 righties in a row up. For instance, I had a guy on first and second with 1 out and the AI brings in a lefty to face Mike Trout.

[ninertravel]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

I am really getting tired of seeing the CPU AI takeout the starting pitcher after he is pitching a shutout and has only thrown 46 pitches though 6.1 innings! He gets pulled right after giving up a base hit with 1 out in the 6th inning with only 46 pitches thrown. He was dominating me and this was also in exhibition mode it that makes any difference. I have basically seen this kind of thing happen with all versions of MLB The Show. It really is one of the weakest points of the game.

I really hope the CPU AI Bullpen and Manager logic has greatly improved and became much smarter and more like real life coaches and manager decisions in MLB The Show 16!

And to add on to that I would love to also see manager tendencies in MLB The Show some day

Bottom line MLB The Show CPU AI needs to be smarter!!!

was the game close though?? you will find in your situation 1-0 after you hit a base hit the CPU manager will hook the pitcher it's a joke and SHOULDN"T happen if you were losing 6-0 then the CPU would have kept the pitcher in the game, it's the way the AI logic is used it only goes by the score rather then the situation and fatagure it needs to change,


maybe have a option where we can control the CPU manager the fix this dumb ai LOGIC up, the slider does nothing it all depends on the score if it was 7-0 and you still couldn't score the CPU would have the starter in for 160 pitches with the bar on empty, it's the way the AI uses the BP goes by the score not the situation

[tessl]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

Strange why I am seeing this then

Maybe because you are in exhibition mode? Try franchise mode.

[Bobhead]

Re: Bullpen and Manager Logic needs to be smarter!!

I'm not seeing the specific example you described either. In my game pitchers seldom get pulled with a lead, or a shutout.

I do agree the AI needs work in general though. The main thing that sticks out in my mind is that I see too many righties brought in to face lefties, and vice versa.