Please eliminate "bunt dancing" from online play.

[NBAGreen]

Players will constantly look at the position of the infielders using the third person view while quickly alternating between being squared up to bunt and back in a normal hitting stance. It looks like the hitter is twitching. Along with bunt and steal cheesing, this is one of the most annoying online cheese tactics.

There is a discussion about this at the MLB The Show Reddit page:
Reddit discussion

Here is a Youtube video that shows "bunt dancing":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqu34Y3cq_k

[Factzzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by NBAGreen

PS: How can I embed this as a video and not a link?

To embed as a video, just go to where it says "Share" (under the title of the video on youtube), and then go over to "Embed", and copy that text there, and paste it.

That's it.

Also, the bunt dancing is annoying, looks silly, but probably something we're just going to have to deal with with it being online play.

[bcruise]

Although I'll grant that this is silly, I'm not sure it qualifies as "cheese" if there's no actual effect on the game from it (other than annoying the other player). That's kind of exaggerating the problem.

If it caused the corner IF's to charge as though they were expecting a bunt that's one thing, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen?

[NBAGreen]

Quote: Originally Posted by bcruise

Although I'll grant that this is silly, I'm not sure it qualifies as "cheese" if there's no actual effect on the game from it (other than annoying the other player). That's kind of exaggerating the problem. If it caused the corner IF's to charge as though they were expecting a bunt that's one thing, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen?

"Bunt dance" cheesers are not necessarily bunt cheesers. They will do this using every batter and may never actually bunt. Allowing the hitter to constantly change from bunt stance to normal hitting stance is somewhat annoying. However, allowing the batter to combine R3 with a direction selection to make the screen shake is terrible.

My guess is that it doesn't affect fielder AI.

[Syce]

pitching to that is annoying as well, but since you have to focus on the bar whether its the meter bar or the analog bar or even the pulse for pulse pitching the bunt dance kind of throws you off when trying to focus on said bars.

[nomo17k]

I feel this was a legitimate cheese when doing bunt dancing used to cause the network connection hiccups, to throw off timing on meter/analog/pulse inputs.

Since the new online implementation a couple years ago, however, doing bunt dancing hasn't caused as much network issues (though I would still say it sometimes do). This hasn't bothered me as much because of it.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by NBAGreen

"Bunt dance" cheesers are not necessarily bunt cheesers. They will do this using every batter and may never actually bunt. Allowing the hitter to constantly change from bunt stance to normal hitting stance is somewhat annoying. However, allowing the batter to combine R3 with a direction selection to make the screen shake is terrible. My guess is that it doesn't affect fielder AI.

This might be an effect of offline/online differences.

Forgive me as I have never played an online game but when I'm offline I can view the corners to see where they are playing and never got the impression that my batter was squaring around. I could do this as long as I needed though and it would prevent the CPU from pitching.

Is this maybe a band aid between the differences of the two modes? If your opponent is view the corners are you able to pitch or are you prevented from doing so?

[NBAGreen]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

This might be an effect of offline/online differences. Forgive me as I have never played an online game but when I'm offline I can view the corners to see where they are playing and never got the impression that my batter was squaring around. I could do this as long as I needed though and it would prevent the CPU from pitching. Is this maybe a band aid between the differences of the two modes? If your opponent is view the corners are you able to pitch or are you prevented from doing so?

The bold part is true online as well.

I don't understand your first question.

You cannot pitch when your online opponent is viewing the corners. While your opponent views the corners, you are seeing the same screen as your opponent.