Breaking pitches.

[Speedy]

I don't understand how an overhead armslot curveball could break to the armside.

Phsyics defy this thinking based on the pressure points a pitcher applies and the torque of his wrist.

[ktd1976]

Quote: Originally Posted by Speedy

I don't understand how an overhead armslot curveball could break to the armside. Phsyics defy this thinking based on the pressure points a pitcher applies and the torque of his wrist.

Overhead arm slot, it is very very unlikely. But if the arm slot is off a bit to the non throwing side, then the ball will go arm side. Conversely, if the arm slot is off a bit to the throwing side, the ball will go to the non throwing side.

It very rarely happens, but it CAN happen.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by ktd1976

Overhead arm slot, it is very very unlikely. But if the arm slot is off a bit to the non throwing side, then the ball will go arm side. Conversely, if the arm slot is off a bit to the throwing side, the ball will go to the non throwing side. It very rarely happens, but it CAN happen.

In order for that to happen not only would the arm slot have to be off but so would the follow through which isn't going to happen to any pitcher.

In order to create the necessary spin the slot would have to be inside of where it's supposed to be but the follow through would have to go the opposite direction of what the pitcher always does which would never happen.

Even if the slot moves to the inside the follow through will still be straight down. Will result in a poor result but still wouldn't break arm side.

[Jr.]

If someone is trying to throw a curveball and it moves armside, there is something very wrong with how they are trying to throw it.

[Jr.]

Quote: Originally Posted by ktd1976

Overhead arm slot, it is very very unlikely. But if the arm slot is off a bit to the non throwing side, then the ball will go arm side. Conversely, if the arm slot is off a bit to the throwing side, the ball will go to the non throwing side. It very rarely happens, but it CAN happen.

Please show some video of a person whose arm slot is on their non-throwing side.

Wouldn't they just hit their own head as they tried to throw?

[Speedy]

Quote: Originally Posted by ktd1976

Overhead arm slot, it is very very unlikely. But if the arm slot is off a bit to the non throwing side, then the ball will go arm side. Conversely, if the arm slot is off a bit to the throwing side, the ball will go to the non throwing side. It very rarely happens, but it CAN happen.

If a pitcher is throwing on a 3/4 arm slot and his mechanics are off to where he throws it, idk, sidearm or 4/5 arm slot...how will that affect whether the ball runs toward the arm side like you're stating?

Even if a pitcher is submarine, the way the pitcher torques the wrist is the side the pitch will be thrown. Basically - whatever side the palm faces is where the pitch is heading.

Anyways...I think we're digressing from the primary objective of the thread, understanding/seeing different breaks for breaking balls in the video game.

[Garrett59]

Quote: Originally Posted by eF 5ive

This isn't completely true. When I pitched in little league I threw an arm side breaking ball with solid command. I made the county all star team 3 years in a row. Would love to hear your accolades, though. Just because we don't see it much doesn't mean it's impossible. It's just a technique that needs to be instituted at a young age. Muscle memory.

You wnat to know the difference? That County All Star will whiff on a hanging curve, but not big leaguers. You were most likely hanging your curve I highly doubt it was an effective pitch. And seriously who are you trying to impress county all start like really?

[eF 5ive]

Quote: Originally Posted by Garrett59

You wnat to know the difference? That County All Star will whiff on a hanging curve, but not big leaguers. You were most likely hanging your curve I highly doubt it was an effective pitch. And seriously who are you trying to impress county all start like really?

Chill, Edgar Allen Bro. It's a county that's high on baseball. Plus I was an ace for our church league. The hostility isn't necessary. There are multiple factors that haven't been discussed such as wind variation and grip strength of pitcher. I measured my grip strength at 157 lbs of pressure in my prime. So obviously I am going to be able to throw my curves differently than someone inexperienced as yourself.