How to turn home runs into doubles?

[s1lent]

I'm about halfway through my Mariners season, and I am first in homers and second to last in doubles. It seems I only ever hit homers or singles, and I hit way too many homers. I am middle of the pack in terms of BA so I don't want to affect that too much. I'm playing on AS+ with zone hitting.

My current hitting sliders are:

Contact: 5
Power: 4
Timing: 4
Solid hits: 4

What is the best way to turn some of these homers I'm hitting into doubles without affecting other stats? Should I simply adjust power down another notch? Adjust power down and increase solid hits? Something else?

Thanks for your advice guys.

[KBLover]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Try lowering power first. Power impacts distances on batted balls.

It also has the least side effects.

Keep in mind, though, it will impact your line drives/low flyball distance, so try not to lose those doubles/gappers as well. It also impacts overall velocity of batted balls, so lowering it could make it easier for fielders to get there in time to cut it off, etc.

Just wanted to give some of the possible side effects you might see.

[s1lent]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Alright thanks, I will give lowering the power another notch a shot.

[BENVCR]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Trying lowering fielder speed, power, outfield throwing strength.

Increase solid hits, infield arm strength, base runner speed.

The effects: less home runs, but more solid hits, means more liners into the gaps while keeping power normal. The fielders are slower getting to the ball and at getting the ball back from the outfield, meaning players in the 30-45 speed range aren't limited to singles into the corners. You adjust infield arm strength to make sure infield singles and bunts aren't too common.

Personally I would play around that with different difficulty levels, for me I have a good balance of doubles now, Donaldson had a 44 double season, most of my big hitters were between 35-20

[KBLover]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Trying lowering fielder speed, power, outfield throwing strength.

Increase solid hits, infield arm strength, base runner speed.

Agree with all of these.

I would also consider lowering fielder reaction so that when fielders do take an incorrect read, it doesn't get negated by the fact they always get a great jump/first step.

[forme95]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

What do you have Field React and Fielder speed at? Believe it or not, I found moving these to be more of a effect then moving power slider. Im not sure how this effects XBH and HR's, but it does. Mine are React 6 and speed 4. For my franchise with the Indians, I am staying right in par with MLB as far as HR vs XBH. Just my .02

[s1lent]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Thanks for the advice guys! Will try those adjustments.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Forme95, I thought I was just somehow just hitting badly all of the sudden. I recently made some big changes in lowering Fielder speed and reaction, and my home runs dropped drastically it seems. I wasn't trying to lower home runs, but increase base hits. I didnt connect it with the slider adjustments because it would make no sense. Then I saw your post and it fits what I am going through.

Basically I was trying to increase the number of overall hits I get per game. I thought that if I could just get one or two hits to fall safely per game, the stats would be very realistic. It worked in that the right amount of hits fell in - but - my home runs seemed to decrease a lot. So my hits per game has stayed the same - frustrating.

I didn't even consider that somehow I had affected home runs with Fielder speed and reaction. Not sure how it could, but I seem to be experiencing it.

I am hesitant to increase power or the other hitting sliders, because i was hitting way too many home runs at first. Worked with the sliders forever to get them about right, and now wondering if i need to adjust power or something else again to make up for the decrease caused (apparently) by decreasing Fielder speed and reaction.

Is this a known effect that Fielder speed and reaction has? Are others experiencing this?

[forme95]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Forme95, I thought I was just somehow just hitting badly all of the sudden. I recently made some big changes in lowering Fielder speed and reaction, and my home runs dropped drastically it seems. I wasn't trying to lower home runs, but increase base hits. I didnt connect it with the slider adjustments because it would make no sense. Then I saw your post and it fits what I am going through.

Basically I was trying to increase the number of overall hits I get per game. I thought that if I could just get one or two hits to fall safely per game, the stats would be very realistic. It worked in that the right amount of hits fell in - but - my home runs seemed to decrease a lot. So my hits per game has stayed the same - frustrating.

I didn't even consider that somehow I had affected home runs with Fielder speed and reaction. Not sure how it could, but I seem to be experiencing it.

I am hesitant to increase power or the other hitting sliders, because i was hitting way too many home runs at first. Worked with the sliders forever to get them about right, and now wondering if i need to adjust power or something else again to make up for the decrease caused (apparently) by decreasing Fielder speed and reaction.

Is this a known effect that Fielder speed and reaction has? Are others experiencing this?

I can not confirm nor speculate as I am not a Dev.

I have in my own personal opinions, do believe that yes it does translate xbh's and HR's. When I first started playing the show in '14, I kept fielder speed and reaction even and I was getting frustrated with a lot of games having 4,5,6 or more HR combined per game. After being frustrated for so long, I came across A&S sliders and tried his..... somehow noticing he had speed at 0 and reaction at 2..... I went from all those homeruns to 3x xbh and virtually no homeruns. I ended up settling at a 2 and 4 setting, and was seeing fair shares of both xbh and hr. Since then, I've always kept them apart by 2 and never looked back. Just to add, I've never changed my hum or cpu hitting sliders.

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[KBLover]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Basically I was trying to increase the number of overall hits I get per game. I thought that if I could just get one or two hits to fall safely per game, the stats would be very realistic. It worked in that the right amount of hits fell in - but - my home runs seemed to decrease a lot. So my hits per game has stayed the same - frustrating.

I didn't even consider that somehow I had affected home runs with Fielder speed and reaction. Not sure how it could, but I seem to be experiencing it.

I don't think it does. HR are not (generally) fieldable, so fielder sliders wouldn't impact that I wouldn't think. I have Reaction and Speed for fielders very low and Power also very low and still can jack things out so if it's there, I'm either unknowingly mitigating it or something.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

Yeah i dont see how it could affect it either, that's why it never crossed my mind. But I couldn't figure out why I went from 20 percent of all of my hits being home runs(way too many) to not being able to hit many at all.

I was hitting too many home runs when I had Power and Contact at 3 or 4. Power and contact have been put back to default 5 for some time, and with Fielder speed and reaction lowered, I'm now hitting only 0.71 HR per game which is getting down way to low. (Before I lowered Fielder reaction and speed I was hitting over 2 HR per game on average, with contact and power around 3 or 4)

This is the first time this season where I don't feel like I am expecting to hit a home run at any moment.

Question for you guys that have Solid hits at 4 or 5, are you still seeing plenty of ground balls?
I finally went from 3 to 4 SH, and have noticed a lot more fly balls and popups, but small sample size.

Seems like all my hitting sliders are slowly working their way back to default.

[KBLover]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

I was hitting too many home runs when I had Power and Contact at 3 or 4. Power and contact have been put back to default 5 for some time, and with Fielder speed and reaction lowered, I'm now hitting only 0.71 HR per game which is getting down way to low. (Before I lowered Fielder reaction and speed I was hitting over 2 HR per game on average, with contact and power around 3 or 4)

I have read on here - might have been one of Bobhead's posts a couple years ago, that Power impacts line drive rates, all else being equal. So if higher power changed your flies into liners, that might explain the drop. Then the lower fielder sliders let more drop in. Increasing Contact could also help line drive rate (more likely for a centered PCI, which is often a liner).

So, guessing to what might be happening, I think more line drives (or lower fly balls that don't hang time enough to get out) would be my guess, barring any data.

[Shamhat1915]

Re: How to turn home runs into doubles?

What do you have Field React and Fielder speed at? Believe it or not, I found moving these to be more of a effect then moving power slider. Im not sure how this effects XBH and HR's, but it does. Mine are React 6 and speed 4. For my franchise with the Indians, I am staying right in par with MLB as far as HR vs XBH. Just my .02

I would assume that with fielder reaction and speed higher, the game compensates for that by making hard hit balls go out more than having them land for doubles or whatever. So when you lower those two, it doesn't need to compensate in that manner. I don't know for sure, but it could be something like that