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  • TheDarkKnightRises
    MVP
    • Apr 2015
    • 1060

    #1

    Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

    I posted this in the patch thread and got absolutely zero feedback from the community. Instead everyone was just arguing over random stuff. So, I decided to make my own topic. I ask the mods not to close this until I receive proper feedback. Please and thank you!

    I saw in one of the patch notes that Power to the opposite field was tuned down in the latest patch. That's definitely a good thing since I too noticed it was way overpowered (no pun intended).

    However, I'm also noticing that they may have tuned down hitting in general too much by accident.

    Yesterday I one-hit a good Dodgers lineup on Hall Of Fame pitching difficulty with 67-rated Matt Cain. Could that have been a fluke? Sure, I guess. Except before the patch was released I would use guys like Syndergaard and give up between 5-7 hits a game (sometimes more) against lineups like the Phillies and Braves. Syndergaard is rated a 92 in the game...

    Something here doesn't add up, IMO. Anyone else notice a lack of hitting since the latest patch?
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  • Greencollarbaseball
    Pro
    • Jun 2012
    • 926

    #2
    Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

    Like I've said in other threads, I only have one game post patch to go on, but I 3 hit the Yankees in my game. Two of those hits came in the first inning. But like you said, it could have just been one of those games. I am on HOF classic pitching also.


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    • gp005
      Rookie
      • Jan 2017
      • 279

      #3
      Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

      i think its too early to tell.... however, this is the beauty of baseball. sometimes your ace gets shelled but most times hes solid.

      give us syndergaard back if your not happy with him.... lol
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52704

        #4
        Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

        I would suggest playing more games. A game sample could easily be a "fluke". Sometimes a pitcher is on and sometimes a team just couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat.

        I do believe the power has been toned down a bit, but I don't believe that hitting in general has changed. The ball physics are still alive and present. I played two games last night and both were offensive type of games with multiple hits, doubles, and homeruns.

        This was on HOF Default with Meter pitching and Zone hitting.
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        • TheDarkKnightRises
          MVP
          • Apr 2015
          • 1060

          #5
          Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

          Originally posted by gp005
          i think its too early to tell.... however, this is the beauty of baseball. sometimes your ace gets shelled but most times hes solid.

          give us syndergaard back if your not happy with him.... lol
          HAHA!

          I'm definitely happy with him. Usually those hits wouldn't lead to many runs since I'm pretty good at pitching out of jams in this game.
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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21786

            #6
            Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

            I crushed the Red Sox 11-3 in one game. I hit 4 majestic bombs over the Green Monster.

            Then I shut them out with Jeremy Hellickson and Bentances. They had Sale go 8 IP 0 ER. Took him out in the 9th (not unreasonable he had a very high pitch count) and I roped a solo HR off Thornburg to win it with Starlin Castro.

            Then I was beaten 6-1 in my Cardinals fantasy franchise.

            I don’t think hitting has been overly tuned down. But it certainly is not as lively as it was pre patch.

            You know my thoughts about audio perception on this topic as well with the bat sound so I will not repeat myself (check my last post in the patch impressions thread).

            Things will be fixed again in another update soon.

            But solid hits was tuned down IMO.

            However we need a more robust sample size post patch to really form a good consensus opinion. So let’s give it some time. But playing this game as much as I have (I have played non stop day and night since releases) it was certainly changed a little. I felt it immediately.
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            • Armor and Sword
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              • Sep 2010
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              #7
              Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

              Originally posted by countryboy
              I would suggest playing more games. A game sample could easily be a "fluke". Sometimes a pitcher is on and sometimes a team just couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat.

              I do believe the power has been toned down a bit, but I don't believe that hitting in general has changed. The ball physics are still alive and present. I played two games last night and both were offensive type of games with multiple hits, doubles, and homeruns.

              This was on HOF Default with Meter pitching and Zone hitting.

              Absolutely correct CB. They are gorgeous and alive and well. I think solid hits was tuned down a tad as well as the oppo power. And solid hits would IMO be the way to deduct opposite field power from outside and inside the zone.
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              • TheDarkKnightRises
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                • Apr 2015
                • 1060

                #8
                Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                Thank you guys for all the fast feedback!

                This community really is the best.

                I'm assuming they did in fact tune down solid hits in addition to the power a tad. Glad others noticed it too.
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                • BigOscar
                  MVP
                  • May 2016
                  • 2971

                  #9
                  Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                  The sound off the bat is definitely altering my perception and making it feel like the ball isn't being hit well, but at the same time I'm pretty sure it also is true. I'm getting a similar-ish amount of hits, but they are generally really weakly hit, not the solidly heat line drives of before the patch and the homeruns are definitely down (not a bad thing). I'm hitting a ton of weak singles, barely any doubles and a lot less homers. Some balls are still nicely hit, but it seems a lot less frequent and the average hit is pretty weak.

                  Its hard to say because of how unpleasant the sound is, but it doesn't feel right at all anymore.

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                  • bredfan
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 92

                    #10
                    Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                    RTTS seems fine to me. Can't speak on the other modes.

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                    • dalger21
                      #realtalk
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1932

                      #11
                      Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                      Originally posted by bredfan
                      RTTS seems fine to me. Can't speak on the other modes.
                      It seems all of the "issues" are related to Franchise, Season, DD, etc. Other than the bat sound that was changed (by accident), I haven't noticed anything different in RttS. But then again, I only bat and am a baserunner only as lead runner. I have noticed the SP issue others mentioned but it doesn't bother me as much.
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                      • Armor and Sword
                        The Lama
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21786

                        #12
                        Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                        In the small sample I have played, hitting is fine, the game plays great I just hope the audio gets adjusted back to the out-of-the-box sounds we had. They were great. Again an unintended consequence of the update.

                        It's certainly not the first time a bug crops up from the patch.




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                        • zukes
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 703

                          #13
                          Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                          Yes, a fluke, or you know, one of 162 different outcomes that you will get. Right before the patch I got shut out for the first time this season. This was not too many games after a run of 5 games where I scored 19-12-9-12-15 in games. Since then my bats have dried up and it is a struggle to get 5 runs again.

                          The games I played after the patch were great, only 3 so far so still a very small sample size, but I felt like both teams were less reliant on the HR and were actually required to string hits together every now and then to score runs. I have found that the frequency of hits is about the same, or maybe even a little more as cue shots and bloops are slightly increased, but the power is down. I love it.

                          Now if they could just fix QC. That is ruining things. If I am getting mowed down by a starter, which happened yesterday, I know I just have to endure to the 5th or 6th inning, especially in the National League as they will yank the pitcher on the base-runner, or when he comes to the plate. So sad, as this game is fantastic otherwise.

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                          • bukktown
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3257

                            #14
                            Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                            If the wind is blowing in, I can't score.

                            Wind blowing out, I'm scoring double digits.

                            But it was that way before the patch for me. The frequency of wind blowing in seems to have increased but I've only played 5 games post-patch. 4 of the 5 had the wind blowing in.

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                            • Greencollarbaseball
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 926

                              #15
                              Re: Did SCEA ruin hitting by accident with latest patch?

                              In my two games post patch. Both franchise.
                              Game 1
                              Oakland. 7| 11| 0 2B: 2 HR: 5
                              New York. 1| 4| 0.

                              Game 2
                              Oakland 0| 0| 0
                              Cleveland 3| 9| 1

                              Two wildly different outcomes with tons of hit varieties, well not for me in that second game, but you get my point.


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