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  • sportomatic75
    Pro
    • Apr 2010
    • 882

    #1

    Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

    Is there really a negative effect on their performance? I have not really noticed it, plus it takes 3 innings or so before the energy level starts to go down anyway. I usually don't see a performance impact at all. Same thing goes for bringing in a reliever that is cold. Is there a slider that would impact this at all?
  • sgwrestler11
    Rookie
    • Feb 2006
    • 292

    #2
    Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

    I haven't. I let a guy warmup earlier for two and a half innings and he came in and pitched great.

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    • CaseIH
      MVP
      • Sep 2013
      • 3945

      #3
      Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

      Originally posted by sportomatic75
      Is there really a negative effect on their performance? I have not really noticed it, plus it takes 3 innings or so before the energy level starts to go down anyway. I usually don't see a performance impact at all. Same thing goes for bringing in a reliever that is cold. Is there a slider that would impact this at all?

      Ive notcied at times if I have had a reliever warming up for a while, when he comes in, his energy isnt completely full.
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      • RobbieMacc
        Rookie
        • Jul 2012
        • 81

        #4
        Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

        Warming up a reliever too long will eventually start to take away from their energy. My understanding is this has been in the game for years but for whatever reason I feel like in '17 this happens quicker.

        If it's a close game in the 7th, save situation forthcoming, I usually warm-up the setup guy and "stretch and toss" the closer simultaneously. Not sure that it makes a huge difference, maybe I'm just weird and like using the "stretch and toss" option. (Stretch and toss doesn't affect energy, to my knowledge, and gets the pitcher half-way warm)
        Last edited by RobbieMacc; 05-04-2017, 09:10 AM.

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        • squashbuggie
          Banned
          • Dec 2016
          • 371

          #5
          Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

          I switch pitchers in QM, so no worries there. or just turn off warm-up relievers.

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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21788

            #6
            Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

            Here is how I go about warming up pitchers.

            Once I know I want to make a change the next inning I get them warmed up during the current inning. I check after every batter and once I see they are fully warm I change them to Ready and Waiting.

            If I know I might need them...but not sure. I set them to stretch and toss.

            If during the next inning I know I want to make a change in the middle of the inning, I change them from Stretch and Toss to Warm Up.

            If I need them now and can't wait another batter....I do a mound visit after setting them to warm from Stretch and Toss. I then finish their warm up on the mound (I have warm up relievers set to "On" in my franchise).

            The key is always checking your pen when warming up pitchers and making sure you set them to ready and waiting once they are full....are even 3/4 of the way full which is even more prudent. Plus the fact I do the warm up pitches, waiting till 3/4 full is what I typically do to finish their warm up on the mound. But sometimes I forget. So make sure they are not warming up full for too long or they will have reduced energy.

            Especially be careful if you are warming up a guy you have used the past few games and they don't have full energy to begin with. This will typically happen in a tight series where you used your set up and closer 2 straight days.
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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21788

              #7
              Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

              Originally posted by RobbieMacc
              Warming up a reliever too long will eventually start to take away from their energy. My understanding is this has been in the game for years but for whatever reason I feel like in '17 this happens quicker.

              If it's a close game in the 7th, save situation forthcoming, I usually warm-up the setup guy and "stretch and toss" the closer simultaneously. Not sure that it makes a huge difference, maybe I'm just weird and like using the "stretch and toss" option. (Stretch and toss doesn't affect energy, to my knowledge, and gets the pitcher half-way warm)
              Not weird at all. It is smart to use stretch and toss. I do exactly that in the 7th with my set-up guy (warm up) and closer (Stretch and Toss)...just like you. Works great.
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              • BA2929
                The Designated Hitter
                • Jul 2008
                • 3342

                #8
                Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                Not weird at all. It is smart to use stretch and toss. I do exactly that in the 7th with my set-up guy (warm up) and closer (Stretch and Toss)...just like you. Works great.
                I agree. I use stretch and toss all the time. It's definitely not weird.

                Times when I use it:

                1) When one of my top starters is at the fringe of getting tired, I'll use stretch and toss to get a reliever warm to start an inning. If a guy gets on base then I'll change it to warm up.

                2) When the score is tied in the 9th and I'm on the road, I'll use stretch and toss to get two different guys warmed up: My closer and another guy. Depending on if I get anything going that inning will decide who I fully warm up.

                3) When my starter is struggling early I'll get my long reliever to stretch and toss just in case things goes south.

                There are plenty more times where I use it, I just don't feel like typing them all out. It's a nice option to have.
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                • CaseIH
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 3945

                  #9
                  Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

                  Originally posted by BA2929
                  I agree. I use stretch and toss all the time. It's definitely not weird.

                  Times when I use it:

                  1) When one of my top starters is at the fringe of getting tired, I'll use stretch and toss to get a reliever warm to start an inning. If a guy gets on base then I'll change it to warm up.

                  2) When the score is tied in the 9th and I'm on the road, I'll use stretch and toss to get two different guys warmed up: My closer and another guy. Depending on if I get anything going that inning will decide who I fully warm up.

                  3) When my starter is struggling early I'll get my long reliever to stretch and toss just in case things goes south.

                  There are plenty more times where I use it, I just don't feel like typing them all out. It's a nice option to have.

                  Basically how I do it as well. I always use soft toss to start with, unless things just get out of hand real quick, and I have went brain dead, then I will use warm up. But Im starting to think it may take longer for a guy to get warm if you do just use warm up. If you start with soft toss, then go to get warm, it dont take long at all before a guy is ready.
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                  • isherdish
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 213

                    #10
                    Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

                    Is there any stamina penalty for using the ready and waiting option for too long?

                    For example, I stretch and toss the pitcher, then I warm him up. His bar is full so then I do ready and waiting, but I don't bring him in for another inning or two innings? Is there a penalty?

                    And is there a penalty for sitting down a guy after he warmed up and then warming him up again?

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                    • sportomatic75
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 882

                      #11
                      Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

                      Originally posted by isherdish
                      Is there any stamina penalty for using the ready and waiting option for too long?

                      For example, I stretch and toss the pitcher, then I warm him up. His bar is full so then I do ready and waiting, but I don't bring him in for another inning or two innings? Is there a penalty?

                      And is there a penalty for sitting down a guy after he warmed up and then warming him up again?
                      I wish we had a dev to answer that question... I have always wondered how it is coded

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                      • JayD
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5457

                        #12
                        Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

                        I've noticed that the CPU never uses ready & waiting. Their relievers just continue to warm up ining after inning after inning. I have no clue if this is a bug or if it has an affect on the pitchers energy. In years past the CPU would use ready & waiting.

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                        • bigdave117
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 23

                          #13
                          Re: Has anyone noticed a difference when leaving pitchers to warm up for too long?

                          haven't noticed any difference

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