Pitcher Rating Splits: Why are they still missing?

[exeter]

As in vs RHB/LHB...........situational aspects like this in which one role pitchers play a big part are in the real MLB....... so why isn't this represented in MLB The Show also?

Anyone have a clue?

I would love to see it be modifiable for (historical especially) Roster Creation--in the near future.

Thanks

(would also love to SEE players/be able to adjust one's place in the box and/or choke up on bat slightly --i.e. "cheat"--when facing fastball vs breaking ball counts........it would really add needed small things which make baseball the great game that it is)

[dherrera1015]

Re: Pitcher Rating Splits: Why are they still missing?

The pitcher rating splits would add so much to this game. Pitchers like Javier Lopez (won WS with BOS '04 '07 and SF '12 '14 and went to my high school) would be unhittable against LHB. Hopefully they implement this into MLB 18 The Show. Long overdue.

[Fuimus Troes]

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Question of the year. We're all bitching about how this or that is the ONE THING that better be fixed next year, but I think after all the noise has quieted down this might be it.

Adding to that, how cool would it be if DURING AN AT BAT you could just hit/hold a button to see the splits? Or as a batter see a breakdown of all the pitches thrown to you and/or to batters of your handedness WITHOUT going to the pause menu and using the box graphic THAT'S FROM THE PITCHER'S PERSPECTIVE...

Great post.

[mmorg]

Re: Pitcher Rating Splits: Why are they still missing?

Question of the year. We're all bitching about how this or that is the ONE THING that better be fixed next year, but I think after all the noise has quieted down this might be it.

Adding to that, how cool would it be if DURING AN AT BAT you could just hit/hold a button to see the splits? Or as a batter see a breakdown of all the pitches thrown to you and/or to batters of your handedness WITHOUT going to the pause menu and using the box graphic THAT'S FROM THE PITCHER'S PERSPECTIVE...

Great post.

You can see the splits by pressing Left on the D-Pad from either perspective.

You can see all the pitches from a previous at-bat, or during that at-bat once it has started, from the pitcher's perspective by clicking the right thumb stick.

I would like a quicker way to access the batter/pitcher analysis window during the game. Seems like all of this stuff should be accessible with d-pad functions.

[Caulfield]

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I know it would be a lot of work but I'd also like catchers to get a frame rating slider and attributes splits for both vision and discipline. attributes splits just make the game so much deeper and really distinguish players even further.

[Fuimus Troes]

Re: Pitcher Rating Splits: Why are they still missing?

You can see the splits by pressing Left on the D-Pad from either perspective.

You can see all the pitches from a previous at-bat, or during that at-bat once it has started, from the pitcher's perspective by clicking the right thumb stick.

I would like a quicker way to access the batter/pitcher analysis window during the game. Seems like all of this stuff should be accessible with d-pad functions.

Yes, I know, but I guess I wasn't being clear enough and didn't have the terminology at hand. The batter/pitcher analysis from the stat menu should be available during the at-bat. We're on the same page here.

[rjackson]

Re: Pitcher Rating Splits: Why are they still missing?

As in vs RHB/LHB...........situational aspects like this in which one role pitchers play a big part are in the real MLB....... so why isn't this represented in MLB The Show also?

Anyone have a clue?

I would love to see it be modifiable for (historical especially) Roster Creation--in the near future.

Thanks

(would also love to SEE players/be able to adjust one's place in the box and/or choke up on bat slightly --i.e. "cheat"--when facing fastball vs breaking ball counts........it would really add needed small things which make baseball the great game that it is)

If I'm understanding this right, you want to have pitchers have vsL and vsR H/9 and then vsL K/9 and vsR K/9 etc? In a way, it is already in the game. If you don't believe me, throw a bunch of breaking stuff right over the plate. You'll see a lot more barreled balls from opposite side hitters rather than from same side.

[rick diesel]

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I think the dev team/Ramone has said in the past that because batting splits are already included adding pitcher splits as well would cause sort of a double whammy and throw stats out of whack.

IMO pitcher splits need to be in the game. Currently pitchers that, for example, really dominate lefty hitters but get absolutely rocked by righties may end up with an average H/9 rating as the difference gets split. That H/9 attribute should instead be high vs. LHB and low vs. RHB, not somewhere in the middle with only the batter's ability affecting it. If a batter sucks against lefty pitchers, and he faces an extra tough lefty, his ratings should take an additional penalty.

[rick diesel]

Re: Pitcher Rating Splits: Why are they still missing?

If I'm understanding this right, you want to have pitchers have vsL and vsR H/9 and then vsL K/9 and vsR K/9 etc? In a way, it is already in the game. If you don't believe me, throw a bunch of breaking stuff right over the plate. You'll see a lot more barreled balls from opposite side hitters rather than from same side.

But just like there are batters with reverse splits, there are also some pitchers with reverse splits. It may be the case where same side hitters should be barreling up more balls against certain pitchers, and the game doesn't seem to replicate that properly.

[disk]

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This one of a few aspects of baseball that I think the 2K series did better than The Show.

No pitcher rating splits makes batter handedness pointless.

[rjackson]

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But just like there are batters with reverse splits, there are also some pitchers with reverse splits. It may be the case where same side hitters should be barreling up more balls against certain pitchers, and the game doesn't seem to replicate that properly.

I think you'll find those pitchers with reverse splits throw heat with a good tail on it or changes with a lot of movement. It comes down to the repertoire.


Take a pitcher with FB, SL, CH. FB is the X pitch and equally effective against both sided hitters. The Slider is the O pitch and 2nd best where a straight change, equally effective again, it the weakest pitch. This pitcher is going to be better against same-handed hitters since the SL is #2. Now, if they had FB, CCH, Sinker, they will be more effective against opposite handed hitters as both secondary pitches move down and away from them. Same-handed hitters will like hitting them, though.

[underdog13]

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I'm fine with them out. Makes things less complicated when playing. I don't wanna have to worry about a whole nother set of ratings.

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