A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

[sandmac]

Id love a Range attribute and I suspect this idea would be embraced by the community as s great way to address the current fielding issues.

Too many corner infielders ranging into the outfield. I can accept the rare 3B who can drift into LF and field a pop up BUT as it plays now....with Fielding ability at 0 - even the slowest 1B can literally field fly balls in RF?! Wat?

Hope this suggestion will be considered and applied. Thanks!!


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[Caulfield]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

Id love a Range attribute ...

... Too many corner infielders ranging into the outfield. I can accept the rare 3B who can drift into LF and field a pop up BUT as it plays now....with Fielding ability at 0 - even the slowest 1B can literally field fly balls in RF?! Wat?

Isn't the ''Reaction'' attribute ''Range''?
Instead of turning a players ''Fielding'' to 0, try lowering his ''Reaction''.
It might not help but maybe it's worth a try.

[Prilosec]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

Id love a Range attribute and I suspect this idea would be embraced by the community as s great way to address the current fielding issues.

Too many corner infielders ranging into the outfield. I can accept the rare 3B who can drift into LF and field a pop up BUT as it plays now....with Fielding ability at 0 - even the slowest 1B can literally field fly balls in RF?! Wat?

Hope this suggestion will be considered and applied. Thanks!!


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I have done testing with this and speed and reaction matter when playing the game, to determine range. for sim stats, throw accuracy and fielding matter the most.

[sandmac]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

While I'm grateful for the suggestions, that's whack that I'd have to compromise running speed on base just to limit crazy range in the field.

[Prilosec]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

While I'm grateful for the suggestions, that's whack that I'd have to compromise running speed on base just to limit crazy range in the field.

the 1st baseman is really usually the only guy that lacks range on the Infield.

[wisdom less13]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

the 1st baseman is really usually the only guy that lacks range on the Infield.

You haven't watched the Mets play the past decade, have you?

[CAG CheechDogg]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

A lot of 1st baseman have great range

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[nomo17k]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

I think currently the idea is to let Running Speed and Reaction attributes to cover the fielding range. For outfielders, both are important but Speed would matter more due to the sheer amount of ground coverage they need, but for infielders Reaction matters more since they usually don't run an extended distance to get to the ball.

Since I don't think the developers are so inclined to totally overhaul the current player attribute system (too much have been invested, and now that online modes are totally dependent on it), it's more likely that improvement on fielding range gets implemented as some sort of extension to the current system.

What could that be? I have no idea, but other than adjusting fielder reaction and route to the ball (and certain animations that only trigger for better fielders), I am not sure what the game can do to improve the system.

But I do agree that the difference in fielding range among players, especially for infielders, is not very well executed right now. I don't see a whole a lot of differences showing up in stats like range factors among players right now.

[Caulfield]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

You haven't watched the Mets play the past decade, have you?

and then when you throw in guys like Keith Hernandez and John Olerud to boot...

[JaFFiTh]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

I wouldn't suggest putting the fielding ability under 30. Below 30 they pauses before making throws. Even dive plays the would wait till they get up and get to their full throwing stance before they finally thrown the ball. Reaction and speed is basically the closest you can get to range.

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[TripleCrown]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

I think currently the idea is to let Running Speed and Reaction attributes to cover the fielding range. For outfielders, both are important but Speed would matter more due to the sheer amount of ground coverage they need, but for infielders Reaction matters more since they usually don't run an extended distance to get to the ball.

Since I don't think the developers are so inclined to totally overhaul the current player attribute system (too much have been invested, and now that online modes are totally dependent on it), it's more likely that improvement on fielding range gets implemented as some sort of extension to the current system.

What could that be? I have no idea, but other than adjusting fielder reaction and route to the ball (and certain animations that only trigger for better fielders), I am not sure what the game can do to improve the system.

But I do agree that the difference in fielding range among players, especially for infielders, is not very well executed right now. I don't see a whole a lot of differences showing up in stats like range factors among players right now.

...and glad to see you're back Nomo

[Culture Rot]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

Hard to say brilliant for something that was implemented and standard over a decade ago. Necessary is the better word.

[cable guy]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

Range, spectacular play and errors?

I'd love to see a bigger difference between gold glovers and liabilities in the field

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[nemesis04]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

Fielding ratings are too broad to really show diversity in the different positions. Each position requires a different skill set and each of those skills need to be rated in order to emulate the player's ability properly. For example with 1b, one of the most important skills is the ability to scoop and would like to see ratings for the following categories under a 1b:

Scoop ability
Hands: basically an error rating
Range toward second base
Diving ability
Ability to field the bunt
Ability to catch a foul ball:
-in front of
-over the shoulder
Speed:
In the field
On the base path
Situational awareness rating: (Basically baseball IQ in baseball specific scenarios. Would be something good for the CPU fielders not being so perfect all the time.)

Building that type of breakdown based on position would really go a long way to adding diversity.

[Impetuous65]

Re: A Defensive RANGE attribute would be brilliant.

Fielding ratings are too broad to really show diversity in the different positions. Each position requires a different skill set and each of those skills need to be rated in order to emulate the player's ability properly. For example with 1b, one of the most important skills is the ability to scoop and would like to see ratings for the following categories under a 1b:

Scoop ability
Hands: basically an error rating
Range toward second base
Diving ability
Ability to field the bunt
Ability to catch a foul ball:
-in front of
-over the shoulder
Speed:
In the field
On the base path
Situational awareness rating: (Basically baseball IQ in baseball specific scenarios. Would be something good for the CPU fielders not being so perfect all the time.)

Building that type of breakdown based on position would really go a long way to adding diversity.

Love this post, and this has been my thinking on this as well. I hope they go the NBA 2K route with tendencies and attributes.