How to implement rotating interleague schedules

[CgyFlames]

Last week I made a comment that I could code rotating interleague schedules for Franchise Mode without much difficulty. I don’t want to make claims without backing them up, so I’m going to explain my exact proposal and leave it out here in hopes that it helps developers improve this aspect. Warning, this will be long.

First, the current schedule generator: it simply rotates the 5 teams within a division, meaning you always match up against the same interleague division and get the same schedule every 5th year. As an example using the Braves, you play the schedules of...

NL East #1
NL East #2
NL East #3
NL East #4
NL East #5
And repeat.

Second, my alteration to the format: although rotating within each division is good, we also need to rotate between divisions each year. This gives each team 15 unique schedules. Again using the Braves, this would mean you play the schedules of...

NL East #1
NL Central #2
NL West #3
NL East #4
NL Central #5
NL West #1
NL East #2
NL Central #3
NL West #4
NL East #5
NL Central #1
NL West #2
NL East #3
NL Central #4
NL West #5
And repeat.

Third, we need to do this in both leagues, BUT, we need to rotate the AL the opposite way to change the interleague division pairings annually. So, while the NL rotates westward (E > C > W > E), the AL rotates eastward (E > W > C > E)

This creates an interleague cycle of...

2019: NL East vs AL Central (real life)
2020: NL East vs AL East
2021: NL East vs AL West

It’s not perfect, as it doesn’t follow the real life rotation nor does it lock the 2-&-2 “rivalry series” of each team against a certain opponent, but neither does the current code. This would at least guarantee you play every team every 3rd year, as in real life. I can calculate exact future H/A interleague schedules for any team using this method if people really want to know, but that would take a little work.


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[underdog13]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

Ramone on rotating schedule:

"The first thing we looked at this cycle back in April of last year for franchise mode was rotating schedules I want this feature, Luis, wants this feature Daniel the programmer wants this feature.

He looked at the code and told us we can't do this in 8 months it's too much code, too risky, and that would be the only thing we got. So we choose to work on Quick manage and critical situations. We love these features, our SVT wants these features and they took all 8 months to implement correctly. "

I wouldn't expect it to be added soon.

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[Caulfield]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

Ramone on rotating schedule:

"The first thing we looked at this cycle back in April of last year for franchise mode was rotating schedules I want this feature, Luis, wants this feature Daniel the programmer wants this feature.




He looked at the code and told us we can't do this in 8 months it's too much code, too risky, and that would be the only thing we got. So we choose to work on Quick manage and critical situations. We love these features, our SVT wants these features and they took all 8 months to implement correctly. "




I wouldn't expect it to be added soon.




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the only way sds will have enough people to do it for 19 is if the economy was so strong back in April, Sony made a lot of new dev/programmer hires back then.

[CgyFlames]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

I’m aware of Ramone’s comments. I have to assume the “8 months” comment was in reference to a more intelligent scheduler that protects rivalry series’. No denying that would require a lot of code.

But, there is NO WAY my solution requires 8 months to implement. I refuse to believe that. I have poked around the back end data files of multiple PC and PS3 sports games and they all use the exact same method to generate a schedule. Each team is assigned a number from 0-29 and it’s essentially a spreadsheet or text list with dates and teams.

EG: 4/1 3@8

Then the numbers are rotated by the code, to make something like...

4/1 4@9 in season 2
4/1 5@10 in season 3 (etc)

All my idea requires is a simple addition to the rotation logic. Now, I’m not one to say SDS is lazy on every wishlist item like Create-A-Stadium. That actually is an enormous amount of work. And no, I’m not claiming I could make my own baseball game. But my idea to improve this just is NOT difficult, and I’ll stand behind that statement with my modding experience.


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[countryboy]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

Maybe SDS will hire you.

[underdog13]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

I’m aware of Ramone’s comments. I have to assume the “8 months” comment was in reference to a more intelligent scheduler that protects rivalry series’. No denying that would require a lot of code.

But, there is NO WAY my solution requires 8 months to implement. I refuse to believe that. I have poked around the back end data files of multiple PC and PS3 sports games and they all use the exact same method to generate a schedule. Each team is assigned a number from 0-29 and it’s essentially a spreadsheet or text list with dates and teams.

EG: 4/1 3@8

Then the numbers are rotated by the code, to make something like...

4/1 4@9 in season 2
4/1 5@10 in season 3 (etc)

All my idea requires is a simple addition to the rotation logic. Now, I’m not one to say SDS is lazy on every wishlist item like Create-A-Stadium. That actually is an enormous amount of work. And no, I’m not claiming I could make my own baseball game. But my idea to improve this just is NOT difficult, and I’ll stand behind that statement with my modding experience.


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Haha I agree with you man. Just wanted to share ramones comments on the situation.

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[RogerDodger]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

I don’t see why they don’t just create 4-5 different schedules and play through one of them in rotation each season. It’s not perfect but surely it’s a lot easier and quicker to implement.

[Caulfield]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

we're obviously missing something here that schedules are tied to in franchise that probably would be better if it weren't. Too much else to untangle for it to be this easy.

[CgyFlames]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

I don’t see why they don’t just create 4-5 different schedules and play through one of them in rotation each season. It’s not perfect but surely it’s a lot easier and quicker to implement.

Certainly a viable option. They essentially used to do this with season mode: it loaded 1 of 4 predetermined schedules based on your selected length. No reason it needs to dynamically rotate, a simple find/replace effort within the database can make additional schedules relatively quickly.

we're obviously missing something here that schedules are tied to in franchise that probably would be better if it weren't. Too much else to untangle for it to be this easy.

Yes, I’ve heard that, and I’ve been racking my brain trying to figure out what it is.


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[underdog13]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

we're obviously missing something here that schedules are tied to in franchise that probably would be better if it weren't. Too much else to untangle for it to be this easy.

Yeah it probably is.

The issue then is, it's their fault for having a poorly set up system. This shouldn't have to be on peoples wish list.

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[Gagnon39]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

Ramone on rotating schedule:

"The first thing we looked at this cycle back in April of last year for franchise mode was rotating schedules I want this feature, Luis, wants this feature Daniel the programmer wants this feature.

He looked at the code and told us we can't do this in 8 months it's too much code, too risky, and that would be the only thing we got. So we choose to work on Quick manage and critical situations. We love these features, our SVT wants these features and they took all 8 months to implement correctly. "

I wouldn't expect it to be added soon.

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I'd trade quick manage, quick situation, phases, and all the other dumb crap that's been added the last 5 years and trade them in a heartbeat for rotating interleague schedules.

[underdog13]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

I'd trade quick manage, quick situation, phases, and all the other dumb crap that's been added the last 5 years and trade them in a heartbeat for rotating interleague schedules.

Yeah same lol

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[SoxSoxSox]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

I'd trade quick manage, quick situation, phases, and all the other dumb crap that's been added the last 5 years and trade them in a heartbeat for rotating interleague schedules.

maybe i'd actually make it through a season LOL

[newhope1000]

How to implement rotating interleague schedules

If they spend little less time in diamond dynasty and put more effort in franchise it make game so much better some don’t like dynasty and exactly want play our favorite teams and play real season with realistic stats how many exactly use money buy stubs get cards most just grind to earn. So maybe time out effort in other parts of the game


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[Caulfield]

Re: How to implement rotating interleague schedules

If they spend little less time in diamond dynasty ...

lemme stop you right there, 'cause that's not an option