Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

[knich]

I won't have MLB19 until Tuesday so I can't comment on it. But I am playing MLB18 and can confirm that I am playing on the Sharpest setting (4k) and with HDR on my tv. And the game plays silky smooth and is photorealistic. For those having trouble getting good frame rates and photorealistic look, the problem isn't SDS so much as it is your tv. I have now played the game with these settings on two Samsung QLED 4k HDR tvs. I have played the game on the 2018 version (Q6F) and the 2019 ( Q60R). They are both amazing. I post this because if anyone is thinking the 4k is too choppy to upgrade their tv. I'm here to tell you IMO it is great and beautiful picture. Just make sure you set to auto game mode although it still plays beautifully with game mode off.

[Blzer]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

I'm assuming you are using some form of frame interpolation?

In that case, I'm not a big fan of it for two reasons: 1) inconsistent look botching it up and providing some chops here and there plus incorrect interpolating at times; 2) maybe a little bit of lag along the way?

Is the smoothness at all rivaling "balanced" mode in its natural form, though? Because some people just aren't as picky about framerates as others.

[QN_52]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

Posts like this are absolutely pointless.


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[XxRnSxX]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

This should be interesting, in my experience with 18, I tried the 4K and it truly looks great but the gameplay suffered compared to balance, the lag was pretty bad on 4K.

[Drty_Windshield]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

Your TV makes no difference. Even if the PS4 Pro had top of the line hardware, HDMI is limited to 30fps at 4k. You would be hard pressed to find someone that knows what they're talking about that would say that 30fps is silky smooth.


Edit: I take that back, the PS4 Pro does in fact have HDMI 2.0, I thought it had HDMI 1.4 like the standard PS4. So it would come down to which version of HDMI your TV has. HDMI 2.0 can handle 2160p at 60hz. Also, I believe that the cable makes a difference too. The limiting factor is still the game though, 4k at 30fps.

[knich]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

I'm assuming you are using some form of frame interpolation?

In that case, I'm not a big fan of it for two reasons: 1) inconsistent look botching it up and providing some chops here and there plus incorrect interpolating at times; 2) maybe a little bit of lag along the way?

Is the smoothness at all rivaling "balanced" mode in its natural form, though? Because some people just aren't as picky about framerates as others.

I don't even know what that means. All I can tell you is until I purchased these tvs, I could not play the game at 4k setting. So I know the difference between a choppy game and a smooth one with my own eyes. Just like you could see with your own eyes how choppy the developer tourney stream was.

Posts like this are absolutely pointless.


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Why do you say this? I was simply educating some who might be on the fence about getting a 4k tv for the show. There are posts on this forum that it is choppy and largely unplayable on 4k setting and I'm here to tell you it is not with the correct tv.

Your TV makes no difference. Even if the PS4 Pro had top of the line hardware, HDMI is limited to 30fps at 4k. You would be hard pressed to find someone that knows what they're talking about that would say that 30fps is silky smooth.


Edit: I take that back, the PS4 Pro does in fact have HDMI 2.0, I thought it had HDMI 1.4 like the standard PS4. So it would come down to which version of HDMI your TV has. HDMI 2.0 can handle 2160p at 60hz. Also, I believe that the cable makes a difference too. The limiting factor is still the game though, 4k at 30fps.

I can only tell you that it is as smooth as any 60 fps ps4 pro game I have. Don't take my word go to a store that has the game and the tv and test it yourself.

[Blzer]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

I don't even know what that means. All I can tell you is until I purchased these tvs, I could not play the game at 4k setting. So I know the difference between a choppy game and a smooth one with my own eyes. Just like you could see with your own eyes how choppy the developer tourney stream was.

Why do you say this? I was simply educating some who might be on the fence about getting a 4k tv for the show. There are posts on this forum that it is choppy and largely unplayable on 4k setting and I'm here to tell you it is not with the correct tv.

Well, it's these two bits that lead me to believe we need a little more scientific analysis on this. If you don't know what frame interpolation is, then it gets a little difficult to judge the merits on which you speak regarding the information you've posted about.

To help out a little, frame interpolation is where your television creates frames between the actual frames that the image displays. It processes what the next frame will be with what frame was before it, and inserts it right in the middle of them. That's why there will always be at least 1/60th of a second of input lag when enabling something like this. Different companies call this different things though, like TruMotion, Auto Motion Plus, Motion Judder Canceller... basically, it's likely something with the word "motion" in it. Maybe not, though.

I have a hard time believing that it mimics/replicates natural 60 FPS, though. They always come with pitfalls of some sort. However, if it comes with the trade-off of 4K and HDR, to some it just might be worth it. In that case, it doesn't make this thread pointless, but I think there needs to be a little more advised direction before somebody just jumps out and unnecessarily buys this game or a TV because of your post.

[Drty_Windshield]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

When it comes to the show, I can instantly tell the difference in fps between the faster mode and the 4k mode. That said... I don't know if you've ever experienced it or not but I have PC with a 8700k / 1080ti and a 144hz gsync monitor. I promise you in no way does any game running at 30fps feel smooth as butter. Are 30fps games playable?, sure they are and there's nothing wrong with that, but 60fps and up is a whole different ballgame when it comes to smoothness. I would rather play MLB The Show at 1080p 60fps than at 4k 30fps any day of the week.

[Keirik]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

Why do you say this? I was simply educating some who might be on the fence about getting a 4k tv for the show. There are posts on this forum that it is choppy and largely unplayable on 4k setting and I'm here to tell you it is not with the correct tv.

Its pointless because you aren't educating anyone. You are just creating a thread and giving your opiinon, trying to point it as factual without any evidence. How about side by side vids, data comparison, fps analysis, anything? Tests with different hdmi wires, inputs, settings, calibrations, etc.

Its been discussed ad nauseum. Some actual compairson data might be better than just telling people on an enthusiast board to buy a new tv doeslt exactly hold much water when a large portion of us regularly upgrade our tv setup bro. There are entire threads dedicated to gaming setups.

[XxGamerXx]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

I won't have MLB19 until Tuesday so I can't comment on it. But I am playing MLB18 and can confirm that I am playing on the Sharpest setting (4k) and with HDR on my tv. And the game plays silky smooth and is photorealistic. For those having trouble getting good frame rates and photorealistic look, the problem isn't SDS so much as it is your tv. I have now played the game with these settings on two Samsung QLED 4k HDR tvs. I have played the game on the 2018 version (Q6F) and the 2019 ( Q60R). They are both amazing. I post this because if anyone is thinking the 4k is too choppy to upgrade their tv. I'm here to tell you IMO it is great and beautiful picture. Just make sure you set to auto game mode although it still plays beautifully with game mode off.

This thread should have ended the minute you thought a tv would be the reason a games fps suffers or improves on consoles. That is all that needs to be said.

[knich]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

Well, it's these two bits that lead me to believe we need a little more scientific analysis on this. If you don't know what frame interpolation is, then it gets a little difficult to judge the merits on which you speak regarding the information you've posted about.

To help out a little, frame interpolation is where your television creates frames between the actual frames that the image displays. It processes what the next frame will be with what frame was before it, and inserts it right in the middle of them. That's why there will always be at least 1/60th of a second of input lag when enabling something like this. Different companies call this different things though, like TruMotion, Auto Motion Plus, Motion Judder Canceller... basically, it's likely something with the word "motion" in it. Maybe not, though.

I have a hard time believing that it mimics/replicates natural 60 FPS, though. They always come with pitfalls of some sort. However, if it comes with the trade-off of 4K and HDR, to some it just might be worth it. In that case, it doesn't make this thread pointless, but I think there needs to be a little more advised direction before somebody just jumps out and unnecessarily buys this game or a TV because of your post.

Its pointless because you aren't educating anyone. You are just creating a thread and giving your opiinon, trying to point it as factual without any evidence. How about side by side vids, data comparison, fps analysis, anything? Tests with different hdmi wires, inputs, settings, calibrations, etc.

Its been discussed ad nauseum. Some actual compairson data might be better than just telling people on an enthusiast board to buy a new tv doeslt exactly hold much water when a large portion of us regularly upgrade our tv setup bro. There are entire threads dedicated to gaming setups.

This thread should have ended the minute you thought a tv would be the reason a games fps suffers or improves on consoles. That is all that needs to be said.

Guys..you are all overthinking this. Of course it is my opinion. Just like when any member of this forum says game plays smoothly on hybrid mode.
No one is using frame interpolation. They are just giving an opinion.
I am just giving my opinion as someone who has played the game for over 10 years and have been playing the game without success in 4k mode until recently. Now if you want to skewer me for that fine. But the post wasn't directed to you. It was directed to those on the fence who read this forum where members keep saying in these threads the game is unplayable on 4k.
I am here to tell you BS!!! Again...you don't have to take my word for it go buy the tv and if you don't like it you usually have 30 days to return it.

[Blzer]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

Guys..you are all overthinking this. Of course it is my opinion. Just like when any member of this forum says game plays smoothly on hybrid mode.
No one is using frame interpolation. They are just giving an opinion.
I am just giving my opinion as someone who has played the game for over 10 years and have been playing the game without success in 4k mode until recently. Now if you want to skewer me for that fine. But the post wasn't directed to you. It was directed to those on the fence who read this forum where members keep saying in these threads the game is unplayable on 4k.
I am here to tell you BS!!! Again...you don't have to take my word for it go buy the tv and if you don't like it you usually have 30 days to return it.

The issue is that you are calling people out on their televisions, and there is nothing within the nature of your televisions that will suddenly improve the framerate that SDS outputs 4K at other than some form of frame interpolation. Literally, nothing else will do it.

I can run the game in 4K on my Samsung 1080p plasma screen, and although it won't output 4K resolution it will run the way it is optimized to for 4K and will downsample the resolution to 1080p for a [albeit barely] slightly cleaner look. One thing it will not do in my eyes, however, is provide me with a smooth enough experience that Hybrid or High Frame Rate will do for me (I forget the names of the different ones, but you'll know what I mean regardless). No new television will change that, nor will it for others who have The Show 18 that attempt 4K mode right now.

If you can give a technological reason as to why your televisions are doing something that others' aren't, then we're all ears. Otherwise, as you said, what is smooth for you might not be smooth for others. But then we are back to square one.

Oh, and many televisions usually have restocking fees. That's why I'm saying it's not wise to just blindly buy based on your wisdom. Provide more factual substance to tell others why what they are currently seeing may be altered based on a brand new television purpose.

[XxGamerXx]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

Guys..you are all overthinking this. Of course it is my opinion. Just like when any member of this forum says game plays smoothly on hybrid mode.
No one is using frame interpolation. They are just giving an opinion.
I am just giving my opinion as someone who has played the game for over 10 years and have been playing the game without success in 4k mode until recently. Now if you want to skewer me for that fine. But the post wasn't directed to you. It was directed to those on the fence who read this forum where members keep saying in these threads the game is unplayable on 4k.
I am here to tell you BS!!! Again...you don't have to take my word for it go buy the tv and if you don't like it you usually have 30 days to return it.

Opinions are fine, what you said is not an opinion it is just an uninformed person making a statement when facts contradict him


Its like me saying the Giants won 12 games last year...That is my opinion but they won 5 which is FACT

[Herschie]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

Rebuilding the database helps.

[knich]

Re: Can you have silky smooth gameplay on 4k and HDR setting..YES

The issue is that you are calling people out on their televisions, and there is nothing within the nature of your televisions that will suddenly improve the framerate that SDS outputs 4K at other than some form of frame interpolation. Literally, nothing else will do it.

I can run the game in 4K on my Samsung 1080p plasma screen, and although it won't output 4K resolution it will run the way it is optimized to for 4K and will downsample the resolution to 1080p for a [albeit barely] slightly cleaner look. One thing it will not do in my eyes, however, is provide me with a smooth enough experience that Hybrid or High Frame Rate will do for me (I forget the names of the different ones, but you'll know what I mean regardless). No new television will change that, nor will it for others who have The Show 18 that attempt 4K mode right now.

If you can give a technological reason as to why your televisions are doing something that others' aren't, then we're all ears. Otherwise, as you said, what is smooth for you might not be smooth for others. But then we are back to square one.

Oh, and many televisions usually have restocking fees. That's why I'm saying it's not wise to just blindly buy based on your wisdom. Provide more factual substance to tell others why what they are currently seeing may be altered based on a brand new television purpose.

Opinions are fine, what you said is not an opinion it is just an uninformed person making a statement when facts contradict him


Its like me saying the Giants won 12 games last year...That is my opinion but they won 5 which is FACT

Has either of you played the game on a PS4 Pro on the Samsung QN49Q60RAFXZA Flat 49'' QLED 4K Q60 Series (2019) or Samsung QN49Q6F Flat 49” QLED 4K UHD 6 Series Smart TV 2018? Well...I have. So I CAN have an opinion that it plays beautifully, smoothly and photorealistically with HDR and sharpest setting on my tv. My point was if you are not achieving this result then perhaps you ought to look at your tv. You can search 4k in my history and you will see that I have complained about it on an old tv. See for example post 55..https://forums.operationsports.com/f...post2048926835

This is not rocket science guys. I simply have a PS4 pro and these tvs...nothing more. So it is pretty simple. As I said, the original post was not directed at you "tech wiz;" it was directed to those who perhaps (like you) claim you can't get smooth game play on "sharpest" setting. It is that simple!

BTW..XxGamer..are posts 22 and 25 opinion or fact (posted just a couple days ago) https://forums.operationsports.com/f...post2049724951

Blzer...was post 6940 opinion or fact (posted just a couple days ago) https://forums.operationsports.com/f...post2049726769

We can play the silly game if you would like. Every tv manufacturer says its tv is better than the other. But guess what? They still get to make that claim because it is a subjective opinion. You seem to have missed the part where I stated it was my opinion. Check this forum...there are many opinions in here. For those on the fence about 4k, I hope I have provided you with some useful OPINION!