AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

[DarthRambo]

Checking in to see if this bullpen issue has been fixed yet before I purchase it. Doesn't apear to be, and probably won't be. Is this something that can even be patched?

All they need to do for a bandaid for now is make energy level matter.

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[Mephiskapheles]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lilly Of The Valley

I think the problem there, is that all RP's will now pitch more than 1-Inning Pitched per Game Appearance. Plus, your set-up Man will still get cheated of more Innings Pitched. I have tried everything, and nothing really works. Even w/ my proposed set-up, I still control everything. I play the game mainly like a text-sim. Only time I really play the game, is screwing around on "Beginner Level" in Retro Mode. I Fast Forward every game to the: 4th, 6th, and 8th Innings. If blow-out in 4th Inning, you can then manage the LRP for the team that is losing. This avoids the insane CPU forced over-usage. Really, probably best to manage the losing team the entire game, to avoid issues. In a regular game, once in 8th Inning, you can control bullpen of winning team. Also, you can make pitching change to Cpu team, so they don't force a 2nd-IP for RP that got thru the 7th Inning. I edit Starter Stamina as such: Starters: 99, 90, 80, 70 - Default @ 80. Relievers: 10 - Lefty Specialist 15 - 1-IP Reliever 30 - 2/3-IP Reliever (LRP) Closers: Stamina @ 30. Clutch - 95, 90, 85, 80 - Default @ 80. Put MRP in-order, of #1 - 4 bases on Overall, I don't think it matters for CPU Logic. With Set-Up men slots, it may matter.

In your earlier post about the setup, you said in order of best relievers:

MR 1, MR2, LR1, then the rest in either LR or MR. Do you fill up MR then put the 7th man in LR2? I assume the idea is both MR slots are effectively setup spots and LR 1 is the best non setup guy. Also, I noticed they’ll first put in LR1 and leave him in even if he’s getting shelled. Any way around that?


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[Lilly Of The Valley]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mephiskapheles

In your earlier post about the setup, you said in order of best relievers: MR 1, MR2, LR1, then the rest in either LR or MR. Do you fill up MR then put the 7th man in LR2? I assume the idea is both MR slots are effectively setup spots and LR 1 is the best non setup guy. Also, I noticed they’ll first put in LR1 and leave him in even if he’s getting shelled. Any way around that? Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

Yes, the 3rd or 4th best, MRP
should go in LR-Slot # 2.

I do not see them fixing anything.
Best thing to do is quick manage
each game you do not play.
Simulate Fwd. to 3rd, 5th, and 7th Inning(s).

This way, you can manage the
LRP usage, in blow-outs. I also manage the 8th Inning, for the winning team if game is close, to get proper L vs R match-ups.

I basically play this game like a text SIM.
I honestly, rarely even play the actual game,
except Retro Mode on Beginner level.

[bigmike0077]

is it safe to assume this wont be fixed this year?

Im a franchise guy and i play most games- Kinda kills the immersion for me

[Lilly Of The Valley]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigmike0077

is it safe to assume this wont be fixed this year? Im a franchise guy and i play most games- Kinda kills the immersion for me

I don't think they will ever fix it.

[Mephiskapheles]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lilly Of The Valley

Yes, the 3rd or 4th best, MRP should go in LR-Slot # 2. I do not see them fixing anything. Best thing to do is quick manage each game you do not play. Simulate Fwd. to 3rd, 5th, and 7th Inning(s). This way, you can manage the LRP usage, in blow-outs. I also manage the 8th Inning, for the winning team if game is close, to get proper L vs R match-ups. I basically play this game like a text SIM. I honestly, rarely even play the actual game, except Retro Mode on Beginner level.

Just so I understand, it looks like this in order of best relievers

MR 1 (setup)
MR 2 (setup)

Then after those

LR 1
LR 2
LR 3
MR 3
MR 4

When not winning, the CPU uses LR 1-3 first correct? Is that why we’re doing this this way?


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[Hellquist]

I am doing my Dodgers franchise now. My very first series against the Diamondbacks, the AI is killing their bullpen. I manage my bullpen pretty damn well, so my relievers have like 80% energy, but the AI? They are half dead, so because of their incompetence, I am getting free hits and runs because they are stupid for having their relievers in too long.

For the first time ever, I do not have a large bullpen. I typically have a lot of relievers and "two closers." I have Eric Gagne and Kenley Jansen as my closers. My bullpen is basically Joe Kelly, Caleb Ferguson, Pedro Baez and Julio Urias. They are super fresh, while the Diamondbacks who have more relievers can barely pitch because they are in so long and have no little to no energy.

The bullpen logic and the slow as molasses fielding are the worst things abou this game.

[Caulfield]

Wont do much good for those already playing on Legend but when you get into the other teams bullpen, has anybody bumped the setting up to the next level to see how you fare? I play on dynamic so I cant but I probably have less issues with other teams bullpen mgmt. than some people are seeing