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  • adamj2281
    Pro
    • Mar 2008
    • 822

    #1

    SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

    If we had half of these improvements since The Show came to PS4 I'd be impressed, EA did it in a year:



    I know it's a larger dev team, etc. but everytime I see the SCEA team they are pushing some DD month or whatever it is that they do. I've been patient, but dear lord, if something isn't done about Franchise this cycle, I'm done.
  • michaelhawj
    MVP
    • Jul 2015
    • 1739

    #2
    Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

    Originally posted by adamj2281
    If we had half of these improvements since The Show came to PS4 I'd be impressed, EA did it in a year:



    I know it's a larger dev team, etc. but everytime I see the SCEA team they are pushing some DD month or whatever it is that they do. I've been patient, but dear lord, if something isn't done about Franchise this cycle, I'm done.
    lol MLB the show and Madden NFL need big updates in Franchise Mode

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    • Hardworker33
      Rookie
      • Jun 2013
      • 128

      #3
      Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

      I logged in just to see if someone had reported that franchise mode video from EA. Holy cow, this is what franchise should look like.

      The game itself doesn't interest me anymore (gameplay wise.. too arcad-ish for me) but they did stepped up big time in the last 2-3 years Franchise wise.

      Please keep the amazing gameplay that we have but merge it into EA's franchise mode.

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      • TheWarmWind
        MVP
        • Apr 2015
        • 2622

        #4
        Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

        Unfortunately EA's NHL series has the opposite problem that MLB has. Fantastic improvements to franchise, but the same old arcade product on the ice, with "improvements" that are basically lip service to solving the issues over the years.

        At this point though, franchise is so outdated and dry in the Show that I wish they would take a little bit off the gameplay team to work on it.

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        • RogerDodger
          MVP
          • Sep 2016
          • 1083

          #5
          Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

          I think I'll get NHL 20 purely because of their franchise mode this year. Quite happy to reward dev teams that put the resources into this mode.

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          • tabarnes19_SDS
            Game Designer
            • Feb 2003
            • 3085

            #6
            Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

            I have found myself playing the Show very little. The franchise mode, only mode I play, has withered on the line. There has been nothing for me the last few years that has dramatically improved the mode.

            In many ways It has gone backwards. The finacial portion was slowly being tweaked and then the change to the new budget ended that. When teams start to get tight, guys "retire" and magically have the money wiped from the books. Years ago they prevented guys from retiring mid contract. It prevented teams from signing older players to long rich contracts.

            Prospects, player development, logic all need work.

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            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 11043

              #7
              Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

              It feels like the last 3-4 years, Sony might have tried things the EA way. Maybe not EA NHL but still
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              • jrnlgrn
                Pro
                • Oct 2018
                • 3076

                #8
                Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                No one should take be taking cues from EA. Most EA game franchise modes are terrible and have gone years without significant updates. Except EA has no excuse because they are a huge developer thats been around for 30 years. I've heard good things about NHLs franchise mode as well but as a FIFA player and an occasional Madden player EA is definitely not the company to emulate. Should The Show improve definitely but I wouldn't hold EA up as the standard bearer based off only 1 or 2 years of an actual good NHL franchise mode.
                Last edited by jrnlgrn; 08-15-2019, 06:26 PM.
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                • TheWarmWind
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 2622

                  #9
                  Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                  Originally posted by jrnlgrn
                  No one should take be taking cues from EA. Most EA game franchise modes are terrible and have gone years without significant updates. Except EA has no excuse because they are a huge developer thats been around for 30 years. I've heard good things about NHLs franchise mode as well but as a FIFA player and an occasional Madden player EA is definitely not the company to emulate. Should The Show improve definitely but I wouldn't hold EA up as the standard bearer based off only 1 or 2 years of an actual good NHL franchise mode.
                  It's been good for quite a few years. I think the last one I played was 16. Their progression/regression system should be copied by all games.

                  I think the point is less about EA and more about their NHL series actually paying attention to franchise. No-one is defending EA, and like I said before, the gameplay pales in comparison to the show.

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                  • jrnlgrn
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 3076

                    #10
                    Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                    Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                    It's been good for quite a few years. I think the last one I played was 16. Their progression/regression system should be copied by all games.

                    I think the point is less about EA and more about their NHL series actually paying attention to franchise. No-one is defending EA, and like I said before, the gameplay pales in comparison to the show.

                    Think the last NHL i played was 15 which wasn't very good.

                    Anyway glad some sports game has a team of people that actively improve it's franchise mode. Maybe we can hire them to teach other development teams how to listen to the people who play the games.
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                    • TripleCrown
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1202

                      #11
                      Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                      Copy --> NHL20 Franchise system --> Paste to MLBTS

                      Copy --> NBA2k20 players models --> Paste to to MLBTS

                      Copy --> MLBTS realistic gameplay --> Paste to NHL20

                      all problems solved !!

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                      • TheWarmWind
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 2622

                        #12
                        Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                        Originally posted by TripleCrown
                        Copy --> NHL20 Franchise system --> Paste to MLBTS

                        Copy --> NBA2k20 players models --> Paste to to MLBTS

                        Copy --> MLBTS realistic gameplay --> Paste to NHL20

                        all problems solved !!

                        If only man, if only.

                        Also should mention the AHL and CHL licensing that EA's NHL has. SDS licensed farm systems has got to be on the top of someone's wishlist.

                        Do baseball players even have a union outside of MLB? Oof, maybe we should forget about it, sounds like a legal nightmare.

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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 11043

                          #13
                          Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                          Originally posted by adamj2281
                          SCEA - Take note...
                          also, off topic, SCEA is now in the 4th year of a name change to Sony Interactive Entertainment but old habits die hard lol
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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52635

                            #14
                            Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                            Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                            If only man, if only.



                            Also should mention the AHL and CHL licensing that EA's NHL has. SDS licensed farm systems has got to be on the top of someone's wishlist.



                            Do baseball players even have a union outside of MLB? Oof, maybe we should forget about it, sounds like a legal nightmare.


                            Minor league baseball players do not have a union


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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 11043

                              #15
                              Re: SCEA - Take notes from the EA NHL Team

                              I dont even think SDS has enough staff to make 2700+ real players
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