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  • Padgoi
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1873

    #1

    Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

    I remember the developers saying it would be take an entire year developmental cycle to implement this, but being as they seem to have enough resources now to create a PS4 game, a PS5 game and an Xbox game, you'd think they'd have the resources to implement something into the game that has become almost as integral and significant as actually hitting the ball.

    The challenge system in real baseball is utilized every single game and in most cases, multiple times per game. With the exception of judgment calls, everything can be questioned and challenged in today's game, going as far as implementing number of challenges per game, which actually has a huge impact on the game if the team has expended all of its available challenges.

    I think it's come time that the developers focus on implementing this asap. It's a huge part of today's game.

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    Last edited by Padgoi; 02-04-2020, 03:39 PM.
  • Padgoi
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1873

    #2
    Re: Why is The Challenge System no a primary focus of this game?

    disregard, title was edited
    Last edited by Padgoi; 02-04-2020, 03:39 PM.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52766

      #3
      Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

      If they do indeed have more resources, I would want them to allocate those resources to other aspects of the game, versus developing a full fledge challenge/replay system.

      I don't care for replay/challenge systems in real sports and really don't want it in video games. I wish they would scrap what they have now.

      Franchise, presentation, and gameplay is where I would personally want the focus of the resources to be placed, but then again I'm just one of many, many, many members of the community who all have our own personal wants/needs/demands for the game.

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      • Caulfield
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 10986

        #4
        Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

        I dont really think it'll be in this years game or it probably would have gotten a bulletin point blurb mention when they dropped their talking points schedule. I do wonder if something like this is too huge an undertaking for a later patch update. I also think a lot of the challenges I would make I would lose because the AI has already decided it got the call right to begin with. definitely want to see some progress on this for the PS5
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        • Padgoi
          Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 1873

          #5
          Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

          Originally posted by countryboy
          If they do indeed have more resources, I would want them to allocate those resources to other aspects of the game, versus developing a full fledge challenge/replay system.

          I don't care for replay/challenge systems in real sports and really don't want it in video games. I wish they would scrap what they have now.

          Franchise, presentation, and gameplay is where I would personally want the focus of the resources to be placed, but then again I'm just one of many, many, many members of the community who all have our own personal wants/needs/demands for the game.

          A valid point indeed, if the resources were available I'd definitely want them allocated to gameplay, however being as the challenge system is a huge part of today's game, it only makes sense to implement it eventually.

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          • Brewers 15
            Rookie
            • Mar 2015
            • 115

            #6
            Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

            I am all for real mlb to take their rotten replay system out of real baseball and that way SDS can just focus on gameplay 🤫 and real mlb can shorten games without new dumb rules

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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21793

              #7
              Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

              The instant replay system in the NFL has been an abomination and has ruined the game and effectively killed the golden goose. Because of replay the Networks now have to have a “rules” expert in the booth. Games have lost all their excitement and spontaneity. It sucks.

              But to their credit MLB baseball has implemented it quite well. It is quick, and it has worked quite effectively.

              MLB umpires are the best on all of the major sports.

              What they better stay away from is robotic strike zones. God forbid we loose one of the most human and critical elements of baseball.

              I think it is overdue that The Show implements a proper replay system.

              Like Padgoi stated. It is a huge part of the game today.


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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #8
                Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                What they better stay away from is robotic strike zones. God forbid we loose one of the most human and critical elements of baseball.
                it's a sign o' the times: first robot umps, now Robot Coach lol. next up, robot players. good thing is you know they wont need PED's, bad thing is they make the Asstros electronic sign stealing look like they were communicating via tin can & string phones.
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                • nemesis04
                  RIP Ty My Buddy
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 13530

                  #9
                  Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                  I don’t use it now mostly because it is incomplete. It only initiates on the user side so it is not really adding anything to the game. I would dump what they have in the game now. It needs to be an all or nothing type of element.
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                  • thawkprime 21
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 275

                    #10
                    Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                    I am not a huge fan of the challenge system in video games as the game should just be programmed to get the call correct. Your now asking programmers to write a program to do something incorrect and fix it with a challege. It leads to canned animations and replays where you can clearly see what you think your challenging happened and the game still comes back as the call in the game is correct. I also am not a fan of the time wasted (why it is small) watching a challenge replay.

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                    • Sip_16
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 351

                      #11
                      Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                      Originally posted by thawkprime 21
                      I am not a huge fan of the challenge system in video games as the game should just be programmed to get the call correct. Your now asking programmers to write a program to do something incorrect and fix it with a challege. It leads to canned animations and replays where you can clearly see what you think your challenging happened and the game still comes back as the call in the game is correct. I also am not a fan of the time wasted (why it is small) watching a challenge replay.
                      Couldn't agree more. I always turn off the first base challenges just wastes time. Its part of real life no doubt but your programming point is right on the nose. Some things just dont transfer between the 2 smoothly. More gameplay improvements always should trump challenge system

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                      • Impetuous65
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 1451

                        #12
                        Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                        They should just take it out, because it's clearly nothing more than a tick on the features list and nothing more. It is horribly half-A**implemented.

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                        • underdog13
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 3222

                          #13
                          Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                          I'd rather just have the right call always and no challenges
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                          • Keirik
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 3770

                            #14
                            Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                            It’s a video game which means a computer in terms of foul, fair, tag, catch, etc should never have the call wrong in the first place. Having a replay basically means the code sometimes will intentionally get a call wrong, or have a slight probability to get a call wrong. That to me seems like a very poor waste of resources on something instead of other things that still need work.
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                            • coach422001
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1492

                              #15
                              Re: Why is The Challenge System not a primary focus of this game?

                              Originally posted by Caulfield
                              blame Tommy John
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