2-strike double play approach

[Jolly Roger]

Situation: You're at the plate with 2 strikes in a double play situation. Do you tip your cap to knee-high strikes or stick with your general 2-strike approach?

Just curious what you all do. I've always just continued to take the "swing at anything close" 2-strike approach in double play situations, but have been thinking about giving up on low strikes.

[canes21]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Obviously it depends on some other factors, but a hit and run is always something to consider. I use classic hitting and will sometimes just push up to try and drive the ball and depending on the batter I may just contact swing. You can get some looping line drives this way. I'll never concede the out by just taking a strike 3, though.

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[TheWarmWind]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Using directional, I use the up influence and a contact swing, but that's no guarantee.

Even with that approach I'll usually let it go and move on, especially if I wasn't certain it was a strike. Walking away with only one out is better than two. This is the kind of thing where having depth in your lineup can really pay off.

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[countryboy]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Swing for the fences!!!

[JoshC1977]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Soooo many factors.

It happened in the game I streamed last night. I had a rally going and my 2-hole hitter up (a weaker contact guy) with Paul Keys on-deck. Took a borderline third strike purposely. I pretty much said "I'll take the K vs the DP with Keys coming up".

It's incredibly situational for me though.

[lilrosati56]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Outs are the most valuable resource you have, you only get 27 of them. I never ever concede to avoid a double play.... At worst I'd go contact ground ball swing with the runner moving.... But if I truly believe the guy has no chance at getting a hit then he shouldn't be in the lineup.

[Funkycorm]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Concede an out? Not gonna happen.

So much can happen if I put the ball in play:

I can put that runner in motion.
I may strike out and have the runner safe at second.
I may hit into that double play.
I may hit a slow roller and the only play is at first in which case I advanced the runner.
I can try and hit it into the big opening on that side of the field since that 1B is on the bag and the 2B in at double play depth. And depending on RH or LH hitter that 2B may go to second to cover the steal making the opening bigger.
I might get a good pitch to hit and put it in the gaps in the outfield and score that runner from first since he was on the move.
More as well but my point is made.

Why concede an out when so much can happen? If I concede I am limiting my options.

To point out 2 things from above: You only have 27 outs and if you don't trust that hitter to hit (unless it is your pitcher) why aren't you using someone else. I obviously understand that some hitters are better than others. Just saying anyone can come through.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

I never concede an out in that situation.


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[kinsmen7]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

I never concede an out in that situation.


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I'm in the same boat, which is probably why I'm typically among the league leaders in DP's

[canes21]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

I'm in the same boat, which is probably why I'm typically among the league leaders in DP's

Lol, how often do you try to hit and run in the situation?

Also, I know it is somewhat unconventional, but not necessarily too outlandish, but does anyone ever go for the 2 strike sac bunt to avoid a DP? General worst case scenario is a foul out, but if you think you're going to get out anyways, at least it can typically move the runner up to 2nd. Of course, it can still lead to a DP if you bunt it too hard, which is easy to do given the bunt physics, but then you're back to where you thought you'd originally be anyways.

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[Armor and Sword]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Lol, how often do you try to hit and run in the situation?

Also, I know it is somewhat unconventional, but not necessarily too outlandish, but does anyone ever go for the 2 strike sac bunt to avoid a DP? General worst case scenario is a foul out, but if you think you're going to get out anyways, at least it can typically move the runner up to 2nd. Of course, it can still lead to a DP if you bunt it too hard, which is easy to do given the bunt physics, but then you're back to where you thought you'd originally be anyways.

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I do that with weak hitters. It is a viable strategy sometimes.

[King Gro23]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

I play the ratings, whatever is the strongest suits in that situation.

If I have a low power hitter im going to look at good PCI & a contact swing.
If my runner at 1st is not the fastest, im looking to advance 2 bags more often then not regardless of the batter. Which means whether they have a 28 power or 82 power. Im swinging power to drive it into a gap.

I may try a hit & run if I have a keen feel for the pitcher im facing.

I'll never voluntarily strike out. Ill try a drag bunt with 2 strikes before I do that

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[Jolly Roger]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

In real life, sure, never concede the out. But a handful of factors make double plays more likely in the Show (too many hard hit grounders right at fielders, baserunners are way too slow on default, fielders are way too quick, etc.).

I don't ground into too many, but I'm usually bottom third or so in the league. I go out of my way to not create too many DPs defensively because the CPU will ground into 2 or 3 a game if you let them.

[Caulfield]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

I stick w/my general 2 strikes approach,
and that approach depends on the type batter & type pitcher.
sure, it's prudent to be cautious but I can't play scared.
so I'm still going to try to put the ball into the outfield.

and the amount of GIDP's I hit into, I feel like it's a wash. I avoid a lot of double plays because my runner on first has pulled the second sacker out of fielding a ball he would have normally by having to cover 2B.
I think this is what Bob Ross meant by 'happy little accidents'

[Therebelyell626]

Re: 2-strike double play approach

Lol, how often do you try to hit and run in the situation?

Also, I know it is somewhat unconventional, but not necessarily too outlandish, but does anyone ever go for the 2 strike sac bunt to avoid a DP? General worst case scenario is a foul out, but if you think you're going to get out anyways, at least it can typically move the runner up to 2nd. Of course, it can still lead to a DP if you bunt it too hard, which is easy to do given the bunt physics, but then you're back to where you thought you'd originally be anyways.

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With rocket hunts the way they are, bunting is a guaranteed double play in this game. The bunts come out harder then some of my regular hits. When I do bunt the ball almost always one hops to the first baseman/ third baseman or the pitcher for the easy double play. I just swing and take my chances.

I’ve noticed this year pitchers throw a lot more meatballs with two strikes, so I never concede