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**shane_790132** · 04-26-2022, 08:17 PM

Re: Expansion team

Search for TnJ Nashville Stars on YouTube he has a good breakdown of how he set his expansion team up in episode 1 of his franchise series.

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**CujoMatty** · 04-26-2022, 08:21 PM

Re: Expansion team

Originally posted by SethMurphy

Has anyone messed around with a faux expansion team? I know there have been a few methods of making an expansion style team in madden that can be done well.

Just wondering if anyone had messed around with a system or list of players they would pick from or how they would build a 90 man to mimic an expansion

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I wish you could actually do an expansion as opposed to just taking over a team. This doesnt at all answer your question sorry but i thought id share what I did and am having a lot of fun with. I made a custom team with a custom stadium and took over Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay for 2 reasons. I want to play in the same division as the Jays and Tampas stadium is garbage lol.

I then swapped players out with comparable overalls and ages for corresponding Canadian players. It gave me a decent but not overpowered team.

**kinsmen7** · 04-29-2022, 12:23 PM

Re: Expansion team

Originally posted by SethMurphy

Has anyone messed around with a faux expansion team? I know there have been a few methods of making an expansion style team in madden that can be done well.

Just wondering if anyone had messed around with a system or list of players they would pick from or how they would build a 90 man to mimic an expansion

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I did one in MLB 20 and had a decent time doing it.

Obviously it's tough, and it's all a pretty big stretch if you're going for any sort of realism to start your franchise. I feel like I had a thread on the dynasties page, but I can't find it anymore..Here's the basics around what I did though:

-Anybody on the 40 man roster at the time was eligible for a dispersal draft, as long as they weren't a rookie (ie. Wander wouldn't be eligible this year).
-Dispersal draft was the same order as the MLB draft.
-I *tried* to draft in the dispersal draft based on organizational needs for the teams that were drafting.
-At the time, MLBTR was running an expansion draft series, so I followed their protection schemes, and drafted 1 player from each team based on their criteria. Basically made it a 29 players out, 29 players in scenario.
-Their protection list was listed here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=262185425
-I kept the Rays farm system. As someone who prefers realism, I think having one of the top farm systems in baseball kind of ruined it for me in the end...I'm sure there's probably a way to go about it, something like you trade off your top 10-15 prospects and just keep drafting eligible players?

It's a shame that they don't run a similar series on MLBTR every year, because it was certainly helpful at the time, and a fun follow in the offseason. I wish I could remember who all I drafted, because if memory serves, it was a pretty godawful team!

**Gocanes44** · 04-29-2022, 09:17 PM

Re: Expansion team

Rip ASB 2001

**cabralk** · 05-11-2022, 12:34 PM

Re: Expansion team

Originally posted by kinsmen7

I did one in MLB 20 and had a decent time doing it.

Obviously it's tough, and it's all a pretty big stretch if you're going for any sort of realism to start your franchise. I feel like I had a thread on the dynasties page, but I can't find it anymore..Here's the basics around what I did though:

-Anybody on the 40 man roster at the time was eligible for a dispersal draft, as long as they weren't a rookie (ie. Wander wouldn't be eligible this year).
-Dispersal draft was the same order as the MLB draft.
-I *tried* to draft in the dispersal draft based on organizational needs for the teams that were drafting.
-At the time, MLBTR was running an expansion draft series, so I followed their protection schemes, and drafted 1 player from each team based on their criteria. Basically made it a 29 players out, 29 players in scenario.
-Their protection list was listed here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=262185425
-I kept the Rays farm system. As someone who prefers realism, I think having one of the top farm systems in baseball kind of ruined it for me in the end...I'm sure there's probably a way to go about it, something like you trade off your top 10-15 prospects and just keep drafting eligible players?

It's a shame that they don't run a similar series on MLBTR every year, because it was certainly helpful at the time, and a fun follow in the offseason. I wish I could remember who all I drafted, because if memory serves, it was a pretty godawful team!

Now that the Ridin Roster is out I'm working on a "expansion draft" taking over the Rangers (no particular reason). I watched a video where a guy used the system from the previous expansion draft for TB and Arizona that worked quite nicely. It was 3 rounds to get to 35 players every team could protect 15 players in the first round and the next two rounds they can add 3 to the protection list.

Was wondering how you did yours if you released the players off the roster or you did a swap?

**kenp86** · 05-12-2022, 09:07 AM

Re: Expansion team

Originally posted by shane_790132

Search for TnJ Nashville Stars on YouTube he has a good breakdown of how he set his expansion team up in episode 1 of his franchise series.

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Thank for this. Been binging that series since i seen your post this morning and am thinking of doing a duel expansion team franchise. Oakland moves to Vegas and Miami moves to Nashville.

My rules.
1. Expansion list I'll go loosely off the list TnJ went off if, but with some adjustments in the players listed. 1 or 2 80 overall players allowed

2. Cant select a player from same divion your team is in. HOWEVER, you are allowed to select 1 prospect from each of those team. But only 1 of those players can be above 70 overall. Other 3 have to be under 70 overall.

3. Can select 4 other prospects from around the league. 1 of those prospects has to be a pitcher. And whatever team you take said prospect from, has to be given 1 of your better players that you would be releasing anyways.(I.E. Miami gives Pablo Lopez to Yankees for say Volpe)

4. You are allowed to KEEP 1 player and 1 prospect from whatever team youre removing.

5. Payroll has to be 60M and under until you make playoffs. Then you add 10M for each round advanced

Little note: I will give 1 hitter and 1 pitcher, from every level of our organization, a gold glove for whoever has the best season. ALSO, I'll designate a certain color to be decided, to 1 Hitter and 1 pitcher who are our captain's.

**kinsmen7** · 05-12-2022, 09:59 AM

Re: Expansion team

Originally posted by cabralk

Now that the Ridin Roster is out I'm working on a "expansion draft" taking over the Rangers (no particular reason). I watched a video where a guy used the system from the previous expansion draft for TB and Arizona that worked quite nicely. It was 3 rounds to get to 35 players every team could protect 15 players in the first round and the next two rounds they can add 3 to the protection list.

Was wondering how you did yours if you released the players off the roster or you did a swap?

Since I was taking 1 player per team (and sending 1 per team in my dispersal draft), I did the dispersal draft and expansion draft by hand (or on excel...can't remember) beforehand, which made it easier to track and just to do a 1 for 1 swap.

**SethMurphy** · 05-17-2022, 10:49 AM

Re: Expansion team

So I used this website's list and rules but made it a little harder for myself, capped at 3 total 80 overall or betters, but only 1 could be a hitter, 1 SP, 1 RP.

MLB Expansion Draft - Part 1: The groundwork

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2282387

With the National Hockey League expanding to 32 teams and rumors swirling that Major League Baseball could pursue expansion in the future, it's time to examine what that might look like.First, inventing the teams. Unlike the NHL, we'll launch both of our clubs at the same time, and they'll draft against one another. They will be:Nashville Sounds, run by our editors Bryan Mcwilliam, Tom Ruminski, and Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb.The Sounds have a long history in Nashville, which is seen as a viable market in the near future. They would need a new MLB park as the Triple-A Sounds' current stadium, which opened in 2015 and seats 10,000, just wouldn't cut it. The Milwaukee Brewers would also have to look for a new Triple-A affiliate.Montreal Expos, run by Josh Goldberg, Travis Sawchik, and Brandon Wile.And, of course, the Expos make their long-awaited return. After losing their franchise to the Washington Nationals in 2004, Montreal baseball fans have settled for the occasional exhibition game played at Olympic Stadium by the Toronto Blue Jays. They'll also need a new park as The Big O is considered largely inhospitable due to its outdated concrete floors and turf. But, hey, at least Youppi! would be back.Next, we had to develop a list of unprotected players for each club. The rules are as follows: Each team must unprotect six players on the 40-man roster with at least one year of service time (three hitters, three pitchers) One hitter and one pitcher must have at least six years of service time (if a club doesn't have a player who qualifies, the player with the most service time is automatically unprotected) One pitcher must qualify as a starter (30% of appearances last year or 50% of career outings must be starts) Players with 10-and-5 rights, injured players, and players on the restricted list were exempted The draft will be run in two rounds, with each expansion team making 30 selections. A club can only have one player drafted from its unprotected list per round, meaning every team will lose two players.Without further ado, here are the lists our managers will be drafting from:AL East Blue Jays Orioles Rays Randal Grichuk Rougned Odor Kevin Kiermaier Reese McGuire DJ Stewart Brett Phillips Santiago Espinal Kelvin Gutrierrez Manuel Margot Yimi Garcia Jordan Lyles Corey Kluber Anthony Kay Cionel Perez Brooks Raley Anthony Castro Tanner Scott Jalen Beeks Red Sox Yankees Jackie Bradley Jr. Giancarlo Stanton Christian Arroyo Miguel Andujar Jonathan Arauz Gio Urshela Rich Hill Aroldis Chapman Phillips Valdez Domingo German Austin Davis Wandy Peralta The Orioles, Red Sox, and Rays all wind up leaving players they just signed unprotected in Odor, Kluber, and Hill. The division's most intriguing name, though, is likely Stanton. Despite being a potent slugger, he's still owed at least $189 million, and that would be a huge amount for an expansion team to take on.AL Central Guardians Royals Tigers Jose Ramirez Carlos Santana Robbie Grossman Oscar Mercado Edward Olivares Dustin Garneau Yu Chang Ryan O'Hearn Victor Reyes Shane Bieber* Mike Minor Eduardo Rodriguez Anthony Gose Joel Payamps Rony Garcia Trevor Stephan Tyler Zuber Bryan Garcia Twins White Sox Josh Donaldson Leury Garcia Ryan Jeffers Danny Mendick Miguel Sano Zack Collins Dylan Bundy Dallas Keuchel Jharel Cotton Matt Foster Cody Stashak Jose Ruiz The Guardians get hit hard by this exercise. Their unwillingness to sign any free agents leaves them with only one active player owning more than six years of service - Ramirez. Meanwhile, Bieber is automatically unprotected as the pitcher with the most service at 3.097, which will definitely make him one of the most sought-after players come draft time. While the Guardians may not like this exercise, it's worth noting that even the rebuilding Orioles and Pirates have added free agents with more than six years of service.Everything else is pretty straightforward in the AL Central. However, the Tigers likely aren't thrilled at the prospect of losing Rodriguez, who they just landed on a pretty reasonable five-year, $77-million contract.AL West Angels Astros Athletics Justin Upton Jason Castro Elvis Andrus Andrew Velazquez Aledmys Diaz Vimael Machin Jack Mayfield Martin Maldonado Chad Pinder Aaron Loup Jake Odorizzi Sean Manaea* Jose Quijada Rafael Montero Paul Blackburn Jaime Barria Phil Maton Adam Kolarek Mariners Rangers Adam Frazier* Kole Calhoun Dylan Moore Eli White Evan White Jose Trevino Ken Giles Jon Gray Justin Dunn Taylor Hearn Erik Swanson Brock Burke Frazier, who the Mariners just acquired via trade, is automatically unprotected by being the longest-tenured hitter in Seattle with 5.075. Manaea is also automatically thrown out there for the A's with 5.157 years of service. Both players would be earmarked for free agency the following winter barring an extension with their new club.NL East Braves Marlins Mets Manny Pina Miguel Rojas Robinson Cano Guillermo Heredia Jesus Aguilar Tomas Nido Chadwick Tromp Jon Berti Dom Smith Charlie Morton Anthony Bass Taijuan Walker Luke Jackson Elieser Hernandez Trevor Williams Sean Newcomb Steven Okert Sean Reid-Foley Nationals Phillies Alcides Escobar Didi Gregorius Victor Robles Garrett Stubbs Andrew Stevenson Adam Haseley Patrick Corbin Kyle Gibson Austin Voth Ryan Sherriff Patrick Murphy Sam Coonrod This is probably the division with the least intrigue, but Robles is an interesting entrant. Perhaps the Nationals would rather risk losing Carter Kieboom, but Robles is coming up on his rising-cost arbitration years and has yet to show that he can be even an average hitter. If he doesn't perform this year, he's likely a non-tender candidate next winter anyway.NL Central Brewers Cardinals Cubs Lorenzo Cain Paul Goldschmidt Yan Gomes Jace Peterson Paul DeJong Michael Hermosillo Tyrone Taylor Andrew Knizner Harold Ramirez Brent Suter* T.J. McFarland Wade Miley Josh Lindblom Miles Mikolas Brad Wieck Jandel Gustave Jake Woodford Alec Mills Pirates Reds Roberto Perez Eugenio Suarez Greg Allen Shogo Akiyama Ben Gamel Mike Moustakas Jose Quintana Justin Wilson Anthony Banda Amir Garrett Sam Howard Jeff Hoffman With Yadier Molina exempted based on his 10-and-5 rights, the Cardinals have to choose between leaving Goldschmidt or Nolan Arenado unprotected. Arenado is still owed $179 million, so it's plausible St. Louis would dangle him and hope an expansion team wouldn't want that contract on the books. But he's also three years younger than Goldschmidt, still a Gold Glove defender at third base, and showed his bat still plays away from Coors Field.Meanwhile, the Brewers are forced to dangle Suter with 4.161 years of service. Interestingly, Josh Hader narrowly missed being automatically unprotected with 4.115 years of service - 46 fewer days than Suter.NL West Diamondbacks Dodgers Giants Nick Ahmed AJ Pollock Evan Longoria Josh VanMeter Austin Barnes Thairo Estrada Jordan Luplow Matt Beaty Curt Casali Madison Bumgarner David Price Jose Alvarez Noe Ramirez Evan Phillips Tyler Beede Sean Poppen Caleb Ferguson John Brebbia Padres Rockies Eric Hosmer Charlie Blackmon Jorge Alfaro Raimel Tapia Jurickson Profar Yonathan Daza Craig Stammen Jhoulys Chacin Javy Guerra Daniel Bard Chris Paddack Julian Fernandez A handful of potential salary dumps highlight the NL West, with Bumgarner, Price, Longoria, Hosmer, and Blackmon. Arguably, the most intriguing name potentially on the move is Paddack, who has become mostly superfluous after an impressive rookie campaign. He's young and still shows promise at 26, but he owns a 4.95 ERA and 4.22 FIP over the past two years while tossing 167 1/3 innings. He's coming up on his arbitration years and is a better option for the Padres than leaving any of their other starters unprotected.

This is the list I believe TNJ used in the Youtube Series.

**kenp86** · 05-17-2022, 12:00 PM

Re: Expansion team

Originally posted by SethMurphy

So I used this website's list and rules but made it a little harder for myself, capped at 3 total 80 overall or betters, but only 1 could be a hitter, 1 SP, 1 RP.

MLB Expansion Draft - Part 1: The groundwork

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2282387

With the National Hockey League expanding to 32 teams and rumors swirling that Major League Baseball could pursue expansion in the future, it's time to examine what that might look like.First, inventing the teams. Unlike the NHL, we'll launch both of our clubs at the same time, and they'll draft against one another. They will be:Nashville Sounds, run by our editors Bryan Mcwilliam, Tom Ruminski, and Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb.The Sounds have a long history in Nashville, which is seen as a viable market in the near future. They would need a new MLB park as the Triple-A Sounds' current stadium, which opened in 2015 and seats 10,000, just wouldn't cut it. The Milwaukee Brewers would also have to look for a new Triple-A affiliate.Montreal Expos, run by Josh Goldberg, Travis Sawchik, and Brandon Wile.And, of course, the Expos make their long-awaited return. After losing their franchise to the Washington Nationals in 2004, Montreal baseball fans have settled for the occasional exhibition game played at Olympic Stadium by the Toronto Blue Jays. They'll also need a new park as The Big O is considered largely inhospitable due to its outdated concrete floors and turf. But, hey, at least Youppi! would be back.Next, we had to develop a list of unprotected players for each club. The rules are as follows: Each team must unprotect six players on the 40-man roster with at least one year of service time (three hitters, three pitchers) One hitter and one pitcher must have at least six years of service time (if a club doesn't have a player who qualifies, the player with the most service time is automatically unprotected) One pitcher must qualify as a starter (30% of appearances last year or 50% of career outings must be starts) Players with 10-and-5 rights, injured players, and players on the restricted list were exempted The draft will be run in two rounds, with each expansion team making 30 selections. A club can only have one player drafted from its unprotected list per round, meaning every team will lose two players.Without further ado, here are the lists our managers will be drafting from:AL East Blue Jays Orioles Rays Randal Grichuk Rougned Odor Kevin Kiermaier Reese McGuire DJ Stewart Brett Phillips Santiago Espinal Kelvin Gutrierrez Manuel Margot Yimi Garcia Jordan Lyles Corey Kluber Anthony Kay Cionel Perez Brooks Raley Anthony Castro Tanner Scott Jalen Beeks Red Sox Yankees Jackie Bradley Jr. Giancarlo Stanton Christian Arroyo Miguel Andujar Jonathan Arauz Gio Urshela Rich Hill Aroldis Chapman Phillips Valdez Domingo German Austin Davis Wandy Peralta The Orioles, Red Sox, and Rays all wind up leaving players they just signed unprotected in Odor, Kluber, and Hill. The division's most intriguing name, though, is likely Stanton. Despite being a potent slugger, he's still owed at least $189 million, and that would be a huge amount for an expansion team to take on.AL Central Guardians Royals Tigers Jose Ramirez Carlos Santana Robbie Grossman Oscar Mercado Edward Olivares Dustin Garneau Yu Chang Ryan O'Hearn Victor Reyes Shane Bieber* Mike Minor Eduardo Rodriguez Anthony Gose Joel Payamps Rony Garcia Trevor Stephan Tyler Zuber Bryan Garcia Twins White Sox Josh Donaldson Leury Garcia Ryan Jeffers Danny Mendick Miguel Sano Zack Collins Dylan Bundy Dallas Keuchel Jharel Cotton Matt Foster Cody Stashak Jose Ruiz The Guardians get hit hard by this exercise. Their unwillingness to sign any free agents leaves them with only one active player owning more than six years of service - Ramirez. Meanwhile, Bieber is automatically unprotected as the pitcher with the most service at 3.097, which will definitely make him one of the most sought-after players come draft time. While the Guardians may not like this exercise, it's worth noting that even the rebuilding Orioles and Pirates have added free agents with more than six years of service.Everything else is pretty straightforward in the AL Central. However, the Tigers likely aren't thrilled at the prospect of losing Rodriguez, who they just landed on a pretty reasonable five-year, $77-million contract.AL West Angels Astros Athletics Justin Upton Jason Castro Elvis Andrus Andrew Velazquez Aledmys Diaz Vimael Machin Jack Mayfield Martin Maldonado Chad Pinder Aaron Loup Jake Odorizzi Sean Manaea* Jose Quijada Rafael Montero Paul Blackburn Jaime Barria Phil Maton Adam Kolarek Mariners Rangers Adam Frazier* Kole Calhoun Dylan Moore Eli White Evan White Jose Trevino Ken Giles Jon Gray Justin Dunn Taylor Hearn Erik Swanson Brock Burke Frazier, who the Mariners just acquired via trade, is automatically unprotected by being the longest-tenured hitter in Seattle with 5.075. Manaea is also automatically thrown out there for the A's with 5.157 years of service. Both players would be earmarked for free agency the following winter barring an extension with their new club.NL East Braves Marlins Mets Manny Pina Miguel Rojas Robinson Cano Guillermo Heredia Jesus Aguilar Tomas Nido Chadwick Tromp Jon Berti Dom Smith Charlie Morton Anthony Bass Taijuan Walker Luke Jackson Elieser Hernandez Trevor Williams Sean Newcomb Steven Okert Sean Reid-Foley Nationals Phillies Alcides Escobar Didi Gregorius Victor Robles Garrett Stubbs Andrew Stevenson Adam Haseley Patrick Corbin Kyle Gibson Austin Voth Ryan Sherriff Patrick Murphy Sam Coonrod This is probably the division with the least intrigue, but Robles is an interesting entrant. Perhaps the Nationals would rather risk losing Carter Kieboom, but Robles is coming up on his rising-cost arbitration years and has yet to show that he can be even an average hitter. If he doesn't perform this year, he's likely a non-tender candidate next winter anyway.NL Central Brewers Cardinals Cubs Lorenzo Cain Paul Goldschmidt Yan Gomes Jace Peterson Paul DeJong Michael Hermosillo Tyrone Taylor Andrew Knizner Harold Ramirez Brent Suter* T.J. McFarland Wade Miley Josh Lindblom Miles Mikolas Brad Wieck Jandel Gustave Jake Woodford Alec Mills Pirates Reds Roberto Perez Eugenio Suarez Greg Allen Shogo Akiyama Ben Gamel Mike Moustakas Jose Quintana Justin Wilson Anthony Banda Amir Garrett Sam Howard Jeff Hoffman With Yadier Molina exempted based on his 10-and-5 rights, the Cardinals have to choose between leaving Goldschmidt or Nolan Arenado unprotected. Arenado is still owed $179 million, so it's plausible St. Louis would dangle him and hope an expansion team wouldn't want that contract on the books. But he's also three years younger than Goldschmidt, still a Gold Glove defender at third base, and showed his bat still plays away from Coors Field.Meanwhile, the Brewers are forced to dangle Suter with 4.161 years of service. Interestingly, Josh Hader narrowly missed being automatically unprotected with 4.115 years of service - 46 fewer days than Suter.NL West Diamondbacks Dodgers Giants Nick Ahmed AJ Pollock Evan Longoria Josh VanMeter Austin Barnes Thairo Estrada Jordan Luplow Matt Beaty Curt Casali Madison Bumgarner David Price Jose Alvarez Noe Ramirez Evan Phillips Tyler Beede Sean Poppen Caleb Ferguson John Brebbia Padres Rockies Eric Hosmer Charlie Blackmon Jorge Alfaro Raimel Tapia Jurickson Profar Yonathan Daza Craig Stammen Jhoulys Chacin Javy Guerra Daniel Bard Chris Paddack Julian Fernandez A handful of potential salary dumps highlight the NL West, with Bumgarner, Price, Longoria, Hosmer, and Blackmon. Arguably, the most intriguing name potentially on the move is Paddack, who has become mostly superfluous after an impressive rookie campaign. He's young and still shows promise at 26, but he owns a 4.95 ERA and 4.22 FIP over the past two years while tossing 167 1/3 innings. He's coming up on his arbitration years and is a better option for the Padres than leaving any of their other starters unprotected.

This is the list I believe TNJ used in the Youtube Series.

yep thats the list he used. Its outdated as some of the players arent on those teams listed. I used that as a baseline for my protected list. Took into consideration some players teams might not actually protect due to age, contract situation or just players that teams may have given up on. Came out with both of my teams with some decent players. will post later

**Nsmitty88** · 06-06-2022, 01:05 PM

Re: Expansion team

I’ve been following TNJ videos on YouTube and like the idea of an expansion team. I used a lot of rules that people had on this thread and others. I took over the Oakland A’s and created the Portland Beavers. Used the score as a baseline to draft players from everyone team. 35 player draft. Released everyone on team and majority of minor leaguers. With the expansion team that I drafted I believe my payroll is in the 60s millions. I set a budget for myself at 90. I think it will be a fun series overall!

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