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Old 05-22-2015, 10:07 AM   #41
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Re: UFC 187: Jones vs. Rumble/Weidman vs. Belfort - May 23

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I'd argue Cormier has more cardio issues. He gassed pretty hard against Jones. Rumble had an issue at MW in Brazil against Vitor when the ref screwed him (adding on to that awful weight cut) and at HW he gassed against Arlovski but other than that he has shown no cardio problems and recently went 3 rounds fine against Davis.

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I think the only difference is that Cormier's pressure is way different than Davis. I was at the Davis fight and Phil was scared to get inside because of Rumble's power. Johnson has also had gassing issues in the Koscheck fight. Other than the Davis fight, I havent seen him go three rounds and look great (maybe the Hardy fight) so I think his first time at 5 will be tough.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:43 PM   #42
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Re: UFC 187: Jones vs. Rumble/Weidman vs. Belfort - May 23

Interesting story on ESPN.com (I'm sure other places have it but first I saw of it), where Weidman called out Belfort for cheating after the weigh-in. The article shows Belfort's testosterone levels and they are all over the place, including one that's right at the legal limit. Weidman's levels in pre-fight testing stayed the same and were nowhere close to maximum allowed levels.

Wouldn't shock me if Vitor was on something and then cycled off just before the testing began.
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Interesting story on ESPN.com (I'm sure other places have it but first I saw of it), where Weidman called out Belfort for cheating after the weigh-in. The article shows Belfort's testosterone levels and they are all over the place, including one that's right at the legal limit. Weidman's levels in pre-fight testing stayed the same and were nowhere close to maximum allowed levels.

Wouldn't shock me if Vitor was on something and then cycled off just before the testing began.
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:45 AM   #44
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Victor had levels near his TRT levels during his camp and then they came back to normal low level. Weidman had low levels, but they were constant. His ratio was really low though.

Both of them had weird results, they didn't fail tests though, but both could be cheating.

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I'm so over athletes "cheating". I just assume they all do in some way.

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Old 05-23-2015, 11:34 AM   #46
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This. I dont want to waste time wondering who is cheating and who isnt. If they get caught...cool. If they dont, I'm not worrying about it.
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