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Old 03-07-2005, 01:23 AM   #9
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Re: If your opponent swings at all balls why throw strikes?

lol some people kill me if i wanna throw balls all game don't swing. If you don't swing that will make me throw strikes it's really that simple.
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Old 03-07-2005, 02:44 AM   #10
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Re: If your opponent swings at all balls why throw strikes?

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lol some people kill me if i wanna throw balls all game don't swing. If you don't swing that will make me throw strikes it's really that simple.

Here's the problem I have with that.....

Many people use teams/pitchers with a wicked 97+ mph fastball. At that speed, I at least have a problem catching up to it. If you don't swing immediatly, then you are going to be late. No split second to judge if it's going to be a strike or not, it's so fast you have no chance. And in the games I've played, it's these people that consistently use the fastball to throw out of the zone on purpose.

I see both sides of this argument, but frankly I always try to pitch real, and i consider people who use the overpowering fastball pitchers to throw mostly balls as cheap. I get more satisfaction when I fool a batter with a good strike than throwing some cheap 97mph high out of the zone when they have 2 strikes on them.
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:50 AM   #11
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No they aren't. Don't say something like that in a matter of fact way. It isn't true.
I assume that vague reply is referring to not telling the difference between low balls and strikes. Umm...sorry to burst your bubble but their is no noticable visual difference until it's too late. I prefer playing people who mix up their pitches, but people who do that crap are just cheesing. I had somebody throw Wakefield balls/strikes all game yesterday, since it's too hard to lift low pitches they can do that the whole game.
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Old 03-07-2005, 11:41 AM   #12
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Re: If your opponent swings at all balls why throw strikes?

I fail to see how that reply was vague considering I quoted you directly in my post.

And again: quit stating your opinion as fact. Although I can't always tell the difference between a low strike and a ball, I certainly don't find it indistinguishable. I've taken many pitches below the zone for balls that were pretty close.

And here's a tip you can use: take pitches at random. You don't always have to know a pitch is going to be a ball to take it. On an 0-0, 0-1 count, I will take a lot, just to see if my opponent is going to try and bait me. I've found that 9 times out of 10, if the other player throws a ball, he will without fail throw a strike the next pitch. You have to establish early that you won't swing at everything, and that your adversary will have to throw over the plate to get outs.

End of story.
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:16 PM   #13
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Re: If your opponent swings at all balls why throw strikes?

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I fail to see how that reply was vague considering I quoted you directly in my post.

And again: quit stating your opinion as fact. Although I can't always tell the difference between a low strike and a ball, I certainly don't find it indistinguishable. I've taken many pitches below the zone for balls that were pretty close.

And here's a tip you can use: take pitches at random. You don't always have to know a pitch is going to be a ball to take it. On an 0-0, 0-1 count, I will take a lot, just to see if my opponent is going to try and bait me. I've found that 9 times out of 10, if the other player throws a ball, he will without fail throw a strike the next pitch. You have to establish early that you won't swing at everything, and that your adversary will have to throw over the plate to get outs.

End of story.
You hit it right on the head. If you take some pitches early, you are more likely to see strikes later.
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Old 03-07-2005, 03:26 PM   #14
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I fail to see how that reply was vague considering I quoted you directly in my post.

And again: quit stating your opinion as fact. Although I can't always tell the difference between a low strike and a ball, I certainly don't find it indistinguishable. I've taken many pitches below the zone for balls that were pretty close.

And here's a tip you can use: take pitches at random. You don't always have to know a pitch is going to be a ball to take it. On an 0-0, 0-1 count, I will take a lot, just to see if my opponent is going to try and bait me. I've found that 9 times out of 10, if the other player throws a ball, he will without fail throw a strike the next pitch. You have to establish early that you won't swing at everything, and that your adversary will have to throw over the plate to get outs.

End of story.
It, they and any other pronouns could refer to anything from any part of my post, it was very difficult to disern what your were talking about.

I understand about working the count and reading the opponents mind etc...it's just these select group of people who throw one pitch(if it's someone with a knuckleball) at the knees throughout the entire game. If you swing and it's low you'll miss then if you take and it's a strike your screwed. I simply quit when I play these people, because I have better things to do with my time. If it isn't fact, tell me what visual difference there is between a curve that is a low strike and a ball. It's not as bad with different angles but you can't fix that online. It's something that needs to be fixed for the next game, I hate when a new game comes out and people will go to no end to make the game look perfectly made.
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Old 03-07-2005, 03:34 PM   #15
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Your post was two sentences long. If you can't "disern" what I was referring to in my post, then you lack basic reading comprehension skill.

And I can tell when breaking balls are dropping low in the zone because the break occurs earlier in its path to the plate. And fastballs can be hard to read low in the zone, but I can certainly tell the general direction by the angle it takes when leaving the pitcher's hand. Maybe you just have no depth perception.
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Old 03-07-2005, 04:17 PM   #16
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Your post was two sentences long. If you can't "disern" what I was referring to in my post, then you lack basic reading comprehension skill.

And I can tell when breaking balls are dropping low in the zone because the break occurs earlier in its path to the plate. And fastballs can be hard to read low in the zone, but I can certainly tell the general direction by the angle it takes when leaving the pitcher's hand. Maybe you just have no depth perception.
OK mr. big shot there was more than two ideas presented within those sentences. What you wrote doesn't even qualify for the word sentence. I'm not going to reread my own post because somebody is too lazy to type out a coherent sentence.

You try and throw in a flame about my vision yet before you were talking about how telling the difference between a low strike and low ball can be "hard" at times. Which one will it be Mr. Kerry?
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