TBT Pierce

[Bubba13laze]

I have been thinking about picking one up for a long time now. I used him in the gauntlet a few times and he was amazing, but just because people are good in the gauntlet doesn't mean they will be good in superstar sim. Has anybody used him in their lineups?

Also, I know its probably the worst time to buy right now and I have been hoarding MT because of it. Just wondering if you think he will retain his value? Or is he somebody that will drop drastically in the coming weeks. Currently he goes for about 200k on the ps4.

Thanks in advance for your input.

(Ideally I want this roster spot to go to amethyst Vince Carter but he probably won't come into the game for awhile)

[QNo]

Re: TBT Pierce

Since you've already got Rip, I'd recommend finishing one more seed to get Mullin instead. Similar player, minus the PFA but better shooter.

[pro_cow_tipper]

Re: TBT Pierce

If you're down to spend that much MT, then I'd definitely go with TBT Melo. I got mine for 280k with 20 gold badges and an infinite +9 speed shoe. I'm sure you could get one somewhere close to 200k, but after the all star packs drop he's going to be much cheaper. I've used both of them in the gauntlet too, but I never really liked Pierce as he's not as transition offense friendly.

It could be the shoes, but the TBT is completely different from gold Melo. I guarantee you will notice the extra athleticism and shooting attributes. I had the worst trouble getting the gold to hit threes, but this one is wet every time. I haven't looked at his personality badges, but he beats up in the first quarter all the time for me and usually stays hot also.

Sorry to completely not answer your question, but I just don't like how slow Pierce is haha.

[Bubba13laze]

Re: TBT Pierce

Since you've already got Rip, I'd recommend finishing one more seed to get Mullin instead. Similar player, minus the PFA but better shooter.

Currently in seed 4 with record of 6-4 and using the 86 overall Rip historic version, not rewards.

Think I am going to pull the trigger and pick one up right now for 190k

[Bubba13laze]

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If you're down to spend that much MT, then I'd definitely go with TBT Melo. I got mine for 280k with 20 gold badges and an infinite +9 speed shoe. I'm sure you could get one somewhere close to 200k, but after the all star packs drop he's going to be much cheaper. I've used both of them in the gauntlet too, but I never really liked Pierce as he's not as transition offense friendly.

It could be the shoes, but the TBT is completely different from gold Melo. I guarantee you will notice the extra athleticism and shooting attributes. I had the worst trouble getting the gold to hit threes, but this one is wet every time. I haven't looked at his personality badges, but he beats up in the first quarter all the time for me and usually stays hot also.

Sorry to completely not answer your question, but I just don't like how slow Pierce is haha.

I keep hearing how amazing that tbt Melo is.. looking at stats though, I like how Pierce is a better defender. For speed and transition I am not so sure if it's an issue because I play pretty slow and avoid fast breaking online. That seems like a really good pickup you did though, coping him with infinite speed shoe!

This is the deciding factor though, Melo's plays:
Plays Isolation, Post Up Low, P&R Ball Handler

Currently with Nash, Tmac, KG, and Hakeem in my starting rotation I don't have access to any 3pt shooting plays. Part of my search for this rotation spot the requirement is getting somebody with access to those plays. Not just because I want that SF to be a spotup shooter, but also some of those plays create movements for other guys on the team too. At the moment I have been using ROTY Vince at starting SF just to get access to those plays and not even using Vince to shoot 3s.

[Enso]

Re: TBT Pierce

Pierce is great. He's not a speed demon but he ain't slow either. He's a great finisher and will surprise you with his fast break dunks. Post ups are money fading from either side. He can also create of the dribble and hes obviously money as a catch and shoot guy. If you play a slower pace I think you'll enjoy him.

[RajonRondo9Celtics]

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I have pierce in my starting line and I love him. Money in the post, and his strength allows him to back down almost anyone. He'll get hot for me in the 1st and be hot the entire game. Also, Pierce from 3 when he's hot? Just chalk it up as in.


His 81 standing mid isn't too bad either, he's usually money from mid for me from anywhere. Plus he's a great on ball defender and can lock people up. Can even play small ball 4 with his strength if you have a good defensive center (I have DPOY Big Ben) though you'll suffer slightly with your rebounding

[Bubba13laze]

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Picked him up for 190k then added limitless range, dimer, brick wall, and transition finisher to him. One more badge spot left, thinking of using post lockdown but haven't decided yet.

Basically going to use him to play lockdown D, hit the open 3, activate 3pt shooting plays, and be a closer (probably going to run Iverson at PG at end of close games over Nash for closer badge so now I have 2 closers). I use Nash/KG for PnR/PnP, Hakeem I do a lot of low/high post work, Tmac I do guard postup, cuts, and the occasional Iso. Probably won't be using Pierce to do post game because I do enough with Tmac and Hakeem already.

Will test him out for about 10 games and see how he fits in.

[P234thetruth]

Re: TBT Pierce

If you're down to spend that much MT, then I'd definitely go with TBT Melo. I got mine for 280k with 20 gold badges and an infinite +9 speed shoe. I'm sure you could get one somewhere close to 200k, but after the all star packs drop he's going to be much cheaper. I've used both of them in the gauntlet too, but I never really liked Pierce as he's not as transition offense friendly.

It could be the shoes, but the TBT is completely different from gold Melo. I guarantee you will notice the extra athleticism and shooting attributes. I had the worst trouble getting the gold to hit threes, but this one is wet every time. I haven't looked at his personality badges, but he beats up in the first quarter all the time for me and usually stays hot also.

Sorry to completely not answer your question, but I just don't like how slow Pierce is haha.

Of course this is coming from a Knicks fan haha

[jyoung]

Re: TBT Pierce

Different versions of the same player can have different animations.

ROTY Jordan has dunk animations that the Moments version does not. The ROTY version also seems to have a slower jump shot animation for some reason.

[pro_cow_tipper]

Re: TBT Pierce

Of course this is coming from a Knicks fan haha

Says the Celtics fan 😂

Forgive me for liking a player that can actually dunk haha.

[Bubba13laze]

Re: TBT Pierce

After 10 games with Pierce here are my stats with him:

17 MPG, 6.3 PPG, 1.8 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.1 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 0.2 TO, 46 FG% (26/56), 37 3PT% (7/19), 80 FT% (4/5), and 54 TS%.

I am still unsure about him. Going to give him some more time and see if I improve with him as I get more familiar with him. Whenever I would run a play for him to come around an offball screen to the wing or corner for an open 3 he would miss. Just about all the 3s I hit with him were ironically in transition pullup from a couple steps behind the arc. His defense is pretty solid and he is better than I anticipated for defensive rebounding. There are just a lot of guys that have lower 3pt ratings than his that I am more consistent with.

Thinking if I play another 10 games and can't get his shooting percentages up I will have to sell him and try someone else at the starting 3. Maybe it's in my head but I feel like my team is better when I put ROTY Vince at starting SF before I had pierce.

[synistr]

Re: TBT Pierce

After 10 games with Pierce here are my stats with him:

17 MPG, 6.3 PPG, 1.8 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.1 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 0.2 TO, 46 FG% (26/56), 37 3PT% (7/19), 80 FT% (4/5), and 54 TS%.

I am still unsure about him. Going to give him some more time and see if I improve with him as I get more familiar with him. Whenever I would run a play for him to come around an offball screen to the wing or corner for an open 3 he would miss. Just about all the 3s I hit with him were ironically in transition pullup from a couple steps behind the arc. His defense is pretty solid and he is better than I anticipated for defensive rebounding. There are just a lot of guys that have lower 3pt ratings than his that I am more consistent with.

Thinking if I play another 10 games and can't get his shooting percentages up I will have to sell him and try someone else at the starting 3. Maybe it's in my head but I feel like my team is better when I put ROTY Vince at starting SF before I had pierce.

PP is probably one of those cards that is not good unless you really get a lot of practice with him and become an expert in his play style, animations, and tendencies, but after doing so he is probably unstoppable. one thing that stands out to me about him is his jump shot animation. its true to form but if he is standing close to the line, he will put his foot on or over it. you can get enough space out front but its hard to do a corner 3 sometimes.

[Bubba13laze]

Re: TBT Pierce

PP is probably one of those cards that is not good unless you really get a lot of practice with him and become an expert in his play style, animations, and tendencies, but after doing so he is probably unstoppable. one thing that stands out to me about him is his jump shot animation. its true to form but if he is standing close to the line, he will put his foot on or over it. you can get enough space out front but its hard to do a corner 3 sometimes.

You're right. He's proving to be someone that really needs to play exactly like their real playstyle. I have been bringing him through off ball screens for catch and shoot 3s and its just not working. All of his big shots come off him dribbling the ball and creating his own shots. That's not really how I play though, I don't like to have the ball in his hands a lot because Nash is very ball heavy and I use him to create for a lot of the team.

Going to post him on AH now and keep looking for a new starting SF.

Think I am going to try out the '95 Glen Rice and see how I like him. Then if he's works out maybe I will get the Allstar MVP version. He has closer badge, 3pt plays, and seems to fit what I am looking for.

[QNo]

Re: TBT Pierce

You're right. He's proving to be someone that really needs to play exactly like their real playstyle. I have been bringing him through off ball screens for catch and shoot 3s and its just not working. All of his big shots come off him dribbling the ball and creating his own shots. That's not really how I play though, I don't like to have the ball in his hands a lot because Nash is very ball heavy and I use him to create for a lot of the team.

Going to post him on AH now and keep looking for a new starting SF.

My lineup of Nash/T-Mac/LeBron/Bird/Hakeem shares 3 of the same starters. Works really well, I'm mostly using LeBron as an elite 3 and D guy, except when my opponent has someone like KD or Melo defending him. He still scores at least 10 a game though. The obvious difference is that I'm using a stretch 4, so I don't need a lot of shooting from my SF. But LeBron makes over 50% of his 3s for me, I do get him wide open though.