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  • didak7
    Rookie
    • Feb 2016
    • 120

    #1

    Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

    Probably a thread for the lesser experienced My Teamers on here like myself. So thus far I've suffered 2 losses in my Domination Campaign.

    Somehow managed to lose to the Hornets early on (Probably in part due to my horrible team) but nevertheless they were a roadblock for me. Ended up beating them by 14 the very next game.

    Then everything seemed to be swell from there on until last night... Gordon Hayward and his stupid Jazz knocked me off in OT after Marcin Gortat missed 2 FT's with 10 seconds left in OT that would have given me a 1 point lead had he hit them both!

    Can anyone recommend a good 3 that can stop Hayward's offense? I shut him down I win.

    My two guys I had rotating through there last night were:
    Rudy Gay (Gold) and Kidd Gilchrist (Gold)

    Feel free to post your Domination Roadblocks here
  • predator122
    Rookie
    • Oct 2013
    • 130

    #2
    Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

    So far so good. I read everywhere that Utah is a problem for a lot of players. I also had a problem with them, they started the game on a 10-0 run, and stayed hot for the next 3 minutes. I finally called a timeout, made some subs, played tight defense on Hayward and i managed to cool them down. Got 3 stars by a 4 MT margin

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    • harryl
      MVP
      • Apr 2015
      • 2663

      #3
      Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

      Even experienced players can have problems with Domination each year. I've played way too much 2K15 and 2K16 and I think I lost to the Jazz twice before I beat them. Though, when I did, I beat them quite easily, 60-48. And with a pretty modest lineup. And, frankly, I didn't even play well:



      For Domination, difficulty level is not high and, except for the All-Star teams, the competition is not very good. So it's really about execution, gameplay skill, and discipline.

      My SF's were Brandon Ingram and Evan Turner, both of whom being merely adequate defenders, at best.

      Rudy Gay is not much of a defender, himself, only about on par with these two Silvers. But MKG is a legit on-ball stopper.

      I think the issue is that Hayward isn't hard to contain, when it comes to on-ball 1-on-1 defense. He's not fast, he's definitely not explosive, doesn't really have handles, and doesn't have very good ability to finish driving dunks and layups if contested. MKG can easily shut him down in that scenario.

      The issue you had, and which I often have, is the CPU running plays with off-ball screens that leave wing shooters WIDE open. And unless the defender has elite Def IQ, he is going to get caught up in off-ball screens. Even if he is elite.

      What you can try to do is to increase pressure on Hayward with Deny Off-Ball defense. But the defender can still get stifled by screens. So what you really need to do is to watch the court and pay attention to Hayward's teammates as they make moves to lay down screens for him. As you see a guy going over to Hayward, off-ball, be prepared to switch to Hayward's defender to get around the screen and be in position to contest a shot if Hayward receives a pass. Or deny the pass altogether.

      These catch-and-shoot sort of guys can be easily contained if you pay attention like this. It's the really explosive guys with crazy handles, like D-Rose with the Knicks, who can't really be contained one-on-one.
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      • didak7
        Rookie
        • Feb 2016
        • 120

        #4
        Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

        Originally posted by harryl
        Even experienced players can have problems with Domination each year. I've played way too much 2K15 and 2K16 and I think I lost to the Jazz twice before I beat them. Though, when I did, I beat them quite easily, 60-48. And with a pretty modest lineup. And, frankly, I didn't even play well:



        For Domination, difficulty level is not high and, except for the All-Star teams, the competition is not very good. So it's really about execution, gameplay skill, and discipline.

        My SF's were Brandon Ingram and Evan Turner, both of whom being merely adequate defenders, at best.

        Rudy Gay is not much of a defender, himself, only about on par with these two Silvers. But MKG is a legit on-ball stopper.

        I think the issue is that Hayward isn't hard to contain, when it comes to on-ball 1-on-1 defense. He's not fast, he's definitely not explosive, doesn't really have handles, and doesn't have very good ability to finish driving dunks and layups if contested. MKG can easily shut him down in that scenario.

        The issue you had, and which I often have, is the CPU running plays with off-ball screens that leave wing shooters WIDE open. And unless the defender has elite Def IQ, he is going to get caught up in off-ball screens. Even if he is elite.

        What you can try to do is to increase pressure on Hayward with Deny Off-Ball defense. But the defender can still get stifled by screens. So what you really need to do is to watch the court and pay attention to Hayward's teammates as they make moves to lay down screens for him. As you see a guy going over to Hayward, off-ball, be prepared to switch to Hayward's defender to get around the screen and be in position to contest a shot if Hayward receives a pass. Or deny the pass altogether.

        These catch-and-shoot sort of guys can be easily contained if you pay attention like this. It's the really explosive guys with crazy handles, like D-Rose with the Knicks, who can't really be contained one-on-one.
        Thanks very much for the info. Yeah my first thought after the game was why did I change my line-up in the first place??? Had I left MKG and Marv Williams in my starting line-up I probs would have won. That's the beauty of My Team I suppose you get better rated players so you assume they will get the job done. I'm looking at you Dirk and Rudy Gay .

        Haha all good.

        P.S - How did you get a screen shot of your game with the Jazz? Is there somewhere we can find this? Or do you always keep your boxscores?

        Cheers.

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        • harryl
          MVP
          • Apr 2015
          • 2663

          #5
          Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

          I think I lost to the Nuggets once before I beat them. Nets I think I beat easily. Jazz, I think I lost to once before beating them. Suns, I lost to once. Magic and Bucks were no problem. Rockets I expected might be an issue because of Harden, but I steamrolled them.

          The Grizzlies gave me fits for one game. Totally crushed me. They made me upgrade my team from one or two Gold to three Golds, adding Brook Lopez (Kemba Walker and Tyreke Evans being my other two golds). And also buying Marvin Williams to start as my 4, because Patrick Patterson and Dragan Bender had not been consistent enough for me when giving them ample wide-open corner three shots:



          I also practiced for a while in Scrimmage, to work on fundamentals for the first time in the 2K17 cycle. That may have been bigger than the lineup upgrades because I didn't score/shoot much with Lopez or Williams. I didn't play especially well, but was pretty solid.

          I really think that, for the most part, it's just about refining skills and habits.

          After the Grizzlies, I was really worried about the Thunder but blew them out of the water. Stupid Russ was doing stupid Russ things.

          The Heat and the Knicks were tough. The Heat took me to two overtimes and Chris Bosh was unloading on me from all over the court. Knocking down any open outside look and converting toughly contested inside shots as well.

          Knicks were not a big issue, but it was a close game all the way through and came down to a nailbiter final possession. The last couple minutes of the 4th quarter was actually pretty fun because it was back and forth the whole time and, in the last minute or so, was a timeout-fest with platooning in and out of Offensive and Defensive situational lineups. The CPU ISO'd Carmelo outside the arc with 10 seconds to go and he jetted to the arc for the game winning shot but I was able to get a moderate contest with Jerami Grant and it clanked.

          D-Rose is an animal with his handles, explosives, and craftiness in the paint. Carmelo will do his jab step routine and stab you in the heart with fadeaways he'll nail despite solid contests. RoLo is actually quite active and effective at grabbing boards and tapping in putbacks due to all the chaos that D-Rose and Carmelo create. Porzingis wasn't as big a factor as one might think but will have a few possessions where he'll be unstoppable.



          Big factor for me was that I had gotten and put in Rewards Robert Horry and Big Shot Bob saved my *** multiple times in the fourth quarter. In one sequence, he came off the weak side and got a key last-second block on D-Rose at the rim to prevent the Knicks from going up by 4 with, like, 20 seconds left. And then sprinted down to the opposite corner where I found him and from which he drained a three-pointer to put me up by 1.

          And then Jerami Grant doing enough to prevent Carmelo from winning the game.

          Kind of silly to have such a hard time with Domination, but I'm having fun.

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          • harryl
            MVP
            • Apr 2015
            • 2663

            #6
            Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

            Originally posted by didak7
            Thanks very much for the info. Yeah my first thought after the game was why did I change my line-up in the first place??? Had I left MKG and Marv Williams in my starting line-up I probs would have won. That's the beauty of My Team I suppose you get better rated players so you assume they will get the job done. I'm looking at you Dirk and Rudy Gay
            Well...Dirk and Gay are good offensive players but defensive holes. Gay is just subpar as a defender in general and Dirk is almost immobile at this point. I imagine that Gay would get caught up in screens constantly and that Dirk would get eaten up by Favors in the post.

            MKG is tough to play because he can't shoot from outside at all, and can only shoot even midrange if left totally open. Will throw it down if he has an open lane but also not particularly good at finishing. Just is a stopper who maybe can get to the rim in transition.

            But you really don't need an offensive weapon at all positions, or even necessarily at more than 3.

            P.S - How did you get a screen shot of your game with the Jazz? Is there somewhere we can find this? Or do you always keep your boxscores
            I have a habit of saving my summary/score sheets...I'm on PC so it's really easy to do in the moment, to archive, and access.

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            • didak7
              Rookie
              • Feb 2016
              • 120

              #7
              Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

              Thanks again for your summations on those teams. Will give the Jazz another crack tonight. Looking forward to it. I'm only 13 cards off Horry now so just a couple more games away then I'll chuck him in, his card looks very good.

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              • rambaldi
                Rookie
                • Dec 2014
                • 227

                #8
                Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                Golden State Warriors...so tough!

                Sometimes I can keep it close for long, but ultimately they (Durant, Curry) just start hitting 3s.
                Making the jump to PES2020.

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                • qwerty521
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 233

                  #9
                  Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                  Only team I lost to were the Warriors.
                  Twice even. Nightmare to play against when they make their shots.
                  Was harder against them than the All star teams.

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                  • AsYouSwish
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 433

                    #10
                    Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                    I've had the most trouble with teams with dominate defensive centers. Lost to the Jazz a couple of times (Gobert), the Heat (Whiteside), and Kings (Cousins). I've been fine when there isn't an elite guy protecting the rim. Of course, I'm just through the Kings and I've still been running with Jay Williams and silver players so maybe my team just isn't good enough. Just got Horry and Rudy Gay from the Kings pack so it's a pretty major upgrade going forward.

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                    • Phoenix87
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 73

                      #11
                      Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                      I've played the first 22 teams, so far I've lost twice with the Jazz and won every other game (in OT vs Houston). I would suggest getting Nowitzki for this game mode, his post fadeaway is great and you get 16MT every time you score (assist +4, post move +5 TWICE, made shot +2). I don't know why you get the post move bonus twice, but I'm pretty sure it was the same last year.
                      Steve Francis / Steph Curry
                      Gail Goodrich / Jerry Stackhouse
                      Larry Johnson / Shawn Marion
                      Tim Duncan / Robert Horry
                      Ben Wallace / Gheorge Muresan

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                      • didak7
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 120

                        #12
                        Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                        Success overnight for me as I got over the Jazz 62-53. Went back to my original starting line-up of Marv Williams at the 4 and Kidd-Gilchrist guarding Hayward. It worked a treat. Dirk off the bench was in the end very handy down the stretch, I take my comments back about the big German

                        Suns next
                        Last edited by didak7; 09-22-2016, 03:58 AM.

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                        • TheFinalEvent97
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 1519

                          #13
                          Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                          For the game against the Jazz i switched out MKG as starter for Jared Dudley who has a killer three pointer and Hayward leaves enough space to get the shot off(the low difficulty helps.) Dudley had 4-4 3PT before the Jazz scored so they resorted to double teaming.

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                          • wascallywabbit
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 12

                            #14
                            Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                            I wonder if who you control on defense matters for the difficulty of the Jazz this year since offensive rebounding is such a problem. I use my center a lot so I tend to be able to control the boards better but against teams that have dominant guards I have a tough time since they blow by my CPU so often

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                            • Enso
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 192

                              #15
                              Re: Domination - Roadblocks (Teams to look out for and how to beat them))

                              Watch out for the Heat in Historic Domination. They take super long to get into their sets which slows down the game and limits your mt. Tried to pressure them and force them into quick shots but nada. Still beat them but just continued on with the other teams. Will go back and complete the 2 stars later.

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