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  • Caleb_Tenacious
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 10

    #1

    Help Needed

    This is my current team:


    I'm struggling to score consistently.

    Right now for offense I'm running:
    Raptors playbook
    Space floor
    4 out 1 in
    Push pace
    Create shots for Kiki

    I try to run a pick and roll offense where I attack the rim and kick out but I'm not getting much movement from the wings.

    What offense can I run to get the most out of my players?
  • kabamaru
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 2478

    #2
    Re: Help Needed

    Basically with space the floor your teammates will not move a lot around. Will move only according to the ball handler to maintain a constant 4 out formation.

    This has positives like spacing and less turnovers and negatives such as the movement you describe.

    Try scoring actions or motion cuts for more movement but this may increase turnovers

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    • Offballer4life
      Pro
      • Mar 2016
      • 695

      #3
      Re: Help Needed

      Originally posted by Caleb_Tenacious
      This is my current team:


      I'm struggling to score consistently.

      Right now for offense I'm running:
      Raptors playbook
      Space floor
      4 out 1 in
      Push pace
      Create shots for Kiki

      I try to run a pick and roll offense where I attack the rim and kick out but I'm not getting much movement from the wings.

      What offense can I run to get the most out of my players?
      Take into account that all of the opinions listed below are coming from someone with a 47% win pct that hasnt beaten Amethyst league. L.O.L.

      Before I get into the meat, hows Moncrief? I imagine its one of the "cheaper" sets to complete, and he always seems to have a beastly card in MT. I locked current Bucks in early bc I thought that he may end up in my lineup.

      I typically dont ever pick one player to run my offense through.

      Badges equipped?

      Heres my current lineup.

      Pace
      Motion Cuts
      Push Pace (i think this just gets guys up the court faster in transition and after inbounds - correct me here for verification)

      And someone can correct me if Im wrong here, but SPACE doesnt create movement per se. It just keeps a predetermined amount of space within the chosen set. Right? So that may be why youve got guys just chillin. I havent played with Scoring Actions much, because it seemed like it just made things a little chaotic. Motion responds to the ball. AGAIN - SHOUT OUT TO SAM PHAM. Check out his youtube. Hes really awesome at breaking down individual plays within different sets and playbooks. PHAMILY!

      The thing with Pace is that you want to have 2 bigs with range OR call manual PnR with proper big. I use the Karls. Always call picks with Malone. It puts the other Towns in the corner. If Malone has no room to score on a roll or fade, point can kick to Towns, or kick to Malone then to Towns. Its been working out really well. If my opponent sticks to Towns, the lane will be pretty open. Malone wipes his trucker backside in the paint. Hes like Refrigerator Perry (if anyone remembers him) lmao. If the opponent cheats between paint and corner, Towns will have room to pop one. Good stuff. ......And side note...***by Towns is unreal. Proper shoe puts him at 91OVR if your a size queen.

      My bench is 1-5, then Curry and Bradley are cheese reserves and Kawhi for lockdown.

      With my bench, the PnR mentioned above is the same, except Im calling picks with Hakeem and watching to see if opp follows Porz to the arc. It doesnt work quite as efficiently bc of the defensive matchups at PF tend to be a little quicker, so Porzingis may be covered.

      A few small things that I think are pretty important...
      -Call TOs to get a momentum swing. I do this at least twice a game if my offense is meh. And at least once, I call back-to-back TOs.
      -I favor TO menu individual player D adjustments rather than D settings in pause menu. Either way, ACE is usually off. (I have been experimenting w this and may be noticing that ON may be better in some instances)
      -Call plays. In addition to your manual PnRs, have a few money plays in your back pocket when you need a bucket.
      -Dont use A and B squads. I usually sub 2 players in at a time. My bigs generally go together. Or I at least make sure one has range. Other than that, I sub to make sure Ive got solid matchups or exploit poor ones. Kobe is a 20+ ppg scorer for me, and by the end of the game his stamina is just about as far from green as you can get. Yet, he still performs. Esp if he is red hot. Under no circumstances do I a) take a player out that has red rings (no matter his fatigue), and b) sub out more than 2 players at a time when someone is hot. Floor/team chemistry.


      Ill Sam Pham again. His videos are clutch IMHO.
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      • Scramz718
        MVP
        • May 2012
        • 1324

        #4
        Re: Help Needed

        Feed Ewing he's one of the best post scorers in the game and doesn't have any offensive weakness. Take some time to learn the post game if you're not that comfortable with it now. Take advantage of his HOF badges. You might want to start Lou at SG for better shooting. Klay can play back up SF & Moncrief SG.

        Try the flow freelance with motion cuts. You'll get some good movement from your wings. Ewing HOF brick wall will play a big roll in getting shooter open with off ball screens. Kiki and Lou should get a ton of open looks from this freelance.

        You won't have to do anything special on offense. If the your shooter are open take the shot, if they aren't feed the post.

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        • Caleb_Tenacious
          Rookie
          • Jul 2012
          • 10

          #5
          Re: Help Needed

          Originally posted by Scramz718
          Feed Ewing he's one of the best post scorers in the game and doesn't have any offensive weakness. Take some time to learn the post game if you're not that comfortable with it now. Take advantage of his HOF badges. You might want to start Lou at SG for better shooting. Klay can play back up SF & Moncrief SG.

          Try the flow freelance with motion cuts. You'll get some good movement from your wings. Ewing HOF brick wall will play a big roll in getting shooter open with off ball screens. Kiki and Lou should get a ton of open looks from this freelance.

          You won't have to do anything special on offense. If the your shooter are open take the shot, if they aren't feed the post.

          How should I set up my offense in order to feed him? what set should I run?

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          • Scramz718
            MVP
            • May 2012
            • 1324

            #6
            Re: Help Needed

            Originally posted by Caleb_Tenacious
            How should I set up my offense in order to feed him? what set should I run?


            Call for quick post ups, you can run whatever set you feel comfortable with. With your line up a 4 out set would work best. Hit LB to bring up the play calling menu then move the right stick over to post up its on the bottom left.

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            • kabamaru
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 2478

              #7
              Re: Help Needed

              Call post-up for ewing

              I am pretty sure that if you just swipe the joypad left to right he will post-up himself

              (Right to left must be quick Iso) Or is it the other way around?

              I am doing these things mechanicaly

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