NBA 2k17 : 1995- 1996 Roster complete with draft class

[ADMINISTRATIVO]

Quote: Originally Posted by baconbits11

Looking forward to the update. How do I find your courts and do I have to user control all the teams to use all the courts?

Yes, you have to control all teams in order to download all courts and jerseys. They are all of them

[BreakingBad2013]

Can someone explain to me, how to get rid of the teams/rosters with current players. Like the Bulls have all updated players.

[Serra11]

Quote: Originally Posted by laroche360

Working on the 97 roster ..stay tuned folks ...

Any estimate about the completion of this roster Laroche?
And I think it would be fair if it's possible to make a donation...

[Real2KInsider]

Quick ratings assessment

Sixers (18-64, 27th Offense, 29th Defense)
86/SG Jerry Stackhouse (14.8 PER)
74/PF Clarence Weatherspoon (17.1 PER)
Despite averaging 19 PPG, Stack was inefficient and a non-defender, consequently not very good in his rookie season (leading to Iverson at #1 in the following draft).
Weatherspoon (3000 minutes) was definitely the best all-around player on the team.

Bucks (25-57, 22nd Offense, 27th Defense)
86/PF Vin Baker (18.4 PER)
82/SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 PER)
Both these players averaged 20 PPG but were also averaging 40 MPG to get there. Neither was an impact defensive player.

Bulls (72-10, 1st Offense, 1st Defense)
99/SG Michael Jordan (29.4 PER)
80/SF Toni Kukoc (20.4 PER)
>74/PG Steve Kerr (15.4 PER)
Kukoc is super underrated and the Bulls having such a potent offensive player off their bench was a big reason they won 72. He was a vastly better shooter and passer than everyone listed so far.
Kerr was 5th on CHI in minutes and his shooting line was an absurd 50/52/93. Certainly worth more than 74 OVR or wherever he is at.
Most of the lesser players could use a buff as the team looks low for the GOAT team. They were much more than just Jordan (who at 33 years old was passed his prime - but had his best supporting cast BY FAR in this historic season).

Cavs (47-35, 10th Offense, 11th Defense)
86/PG Terrell Brandon (25.2 PER)
78/SG Bobby Phills (16.8 PER)
75/SG Dan Majerle (15.1 PER)
>72/C Michael Cage (14.1 PER)
I would push higher for everyone here as it's difficult to distinguish the 47 win Cavs from a lesser team like the Sixers/Bucks.

Celtics (33-49, 17th Offense, 22nd Defense)
80/PF Dino Radja (18.0 PER)
76/SG David Wesley (18.5 PER)
Wesley started at PG over Dana Barros. Radja, a European star at 28 years old, was largely on par with young Vin Baker (but played 29 fewer games). Ratings-wise they look like the worst team in the league but they were certainly better than the bottom tier.

Grizzlies (15-67, 29th Offense, 18th Defense)
82/C Bryant Reeves (13.4 PER)
76/PG Greg Anthony (18.6 PER)
Anthony was the best player on the Grizzlies and it wasn't particularly close (79-82 tier).

[Serra11]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

Quick ratings assessment Sixers (18-64, 27th Offense, 29th Defense) 86/SG Jerry Stackhouse (14.8 PER) 74/PF Clarence Weatherspoon (17.1 PER) Despite averaging 19 PPG, Stack was inefficient and a non-defender, consequently not very good in his rookie season (leading to Iverson at #1 in the following draft). Weatherspoon (3000 minutes) was definitely the best all-around player on the team. Bucks (25-57, 22nd Offense, 27th Defense) 86/PF Vin Baker (18.4 PER) 82/SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 PER) Both these players averaged 20 PPG but were also averaging 40 MPG to get there. Neither was an impact defensive player. Bulls (72-10, 1st Offense, 1st Defense) 99/SG Michael Jordan (29.4 PER) 80/SF Toni Kukoc (20.4 PER) >74/PG Steve Kerr (15.4 PER) Kukoc is super underrated and the Bulls having such a potent offensive player off their bench was a big reason they won 72. He was a vastly better shooter and passer than everyone listed so far. Kerr was 5th on CHI in minutes and his shooting line was an absurd 50/52/93. Certainly worth more than 74 OVR or wherever he is at. Most of the lesser players could use a buff as the team looks low for the GOAT team. They were much more than just Jordan (who at 33 years old was passed his prime - but had his best supporting cast BY FAR in this historic season). Cavs (47-35, 10th Offense, 11th Defense) 86/PG Terrell Brandon (25.2 PER) 78/SG Bobby Phills (16.8 PER) 75/SG Dan Majerle (15.1 PER) >72/C Michael Cage (14.1 PER) I would push higher for everyone here as it's difficult to distinguish the 47 win Cavs from a lesser team like the Sixers/Bucks. Celtics (33-49, 17th Offense, 22nd Defense) 80/PF Dino Radja (18.0 PER) 76/SG David Wesley (18.5 PER) Wesley started at PG over Dana Barros. Radja, a European star at 28 years old, was largely on par with young Vin Baker (but played 29 fewer games). Ratings-wise they look like the worst team in the league but they were certainly better than the bottom tier. Grizzlies (15-67, 29th Offense, 18th Defense) 82/C Bryant Reeves (13.4 PER) 76/PG Greg Anthony (18.6 PER) Anthony was the best player on the Grizzlies and it wasn't particularly close (79-82 tier).

Hello Rashidi, do you think that the rest is on spot? Or still "investigating?

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by Serra11

Hello Rashidi, do you think that the rest is on spot? Or still "investigating?

I had to go to work but basically each team has something that could be tweaked to help better replicate the league.

[Real2KInsider]

Because I thoroughly enjoy exercises like this....

PER sorted by position


1996 STARTERS


POINT GUARD
25.2 Terrell Brandon (CLE)
24.6 Anfernee Hardaway (ORL)
22.8 Kevin Johnson (PHX)
21.9 John Stockton (UTA)
19.6 Gary Payton (SEA)
19.5 Kenny Anderson (CHA)
19.3 Robert Pack (WAS) - Missed 51 games
19.1 Rod Strickland (POR)
18.9 Mookie Blaylock (ATL)
18.7 Tim Hardaway (MIA)
18.6 Greg Anthony (VAN)
18.6 Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (DEN)
18.5 David Wesley (BOS)
17.8 Jason Kidd (DA)
17.3 B.J. Armstrong (GSW)
16.7 Damon Stoudamire (TOR)
16.4 Chris Childs (NJN)
16.3 Avery Johnson (SAS)
15.9 Nick Van Exel (LAL)
15.9 Mark Jackson (IND)
15.4 Terry Porter (MIN)
14.6 Sherman Douglas (MIL)
14.5 Pooh Richardson (LAC)
14.4 Ron Harper (CHI)
13.9 Derek Harper (NYK)
13.9 Vernon Maxwell (PHI)
13.7 Joe Dumars (DET)
12.7 Tyus Edney (SAC)
12.5 Kenny Smith (HOU)

SHOOTING GUARD
29.4 Michael Jordan (CHI)
20.1 Reggie Miller (IND)
20.0 Clyde Drexler (HOU)
19.2 Mitch Richmond (SAC)
19.1 Jeff Hornacek (UTA)
17.0 Eddie Jones (LAL)
16.8 Dell Curry (CHA)
16.8 Bobby Phills (CLE)
16.6 Steve Smith (ATL)
16.6 Jim Jackson (DAL)
16.5 Nick Anderson (ORL)
16.1 Hersey Hawkins (SEA)
15.9 Latrell Sprewell (GSW)
15.7 Allan Houston (DET)
15.6 Isaiah Rider (MIN)
15.6 Vinny Del Negro (SAS)
14.8 Jerry Stackhouse (PHI)
14.2 John Starks (NYK)
14.0 Greg Minor (BOS)
13.9 Bryant Stith (DEN)
13.8 Malik Sealy (LAC)
13.4 Aaron McKie (POR)
13.0 Rex Chapman (MIA)
12.7 Alvin Robertson (TOR)
12.6 Wesley Person (PHX)
11.9 Blue Edwards (VAN)
11.5 Johnny Newman (MIL)

SMALL FORWARD
22.1 Cedric Ceballos (LAL)
21.0 Scottie Pippen (CHI)
20.9 Grant Hill (DET)
17.8 Glen Rice (CHA)
17.3 Detlef Scrhempf (SEA)
17.1 Clarence Weatherspoon (PHI)
17.0 Juwan Howard (WAS)
16.3 Clifford Robinson (POR)
16.3 Sean Elliott (SAS)
16.1 Rick Fox (BOS)
16.1 Dennis Scott (ORL)
15.9 Stacey Augmon (ATL)
15.9 Glenn Robinson (MIL)
15.8 Kevin Garnett (MIN)
15.8 Anthony Mason (NYK)
15.8 Walt Williams (MIA)
15.2 Chris Mills (CLE)
14.4 Jamal Mashburn (DAL) - Missed 68 games
14.2 Derrick McKey (IND)
14.2 Billy Owens (SAC)
14.0 Doug Christie (TOR)
14.0 Michael Finley (PHX)
13.7 Robert Horry (HOU)
13.5 Rodney Rogers (LAC)
13.1 Jerome Kersey (GSW)
12.6 P.J. Brown (NJN)
12.2 David Benoit (UTA)
12.1 Laphonso Ellis (DEN) - Missed 37 games
10.8 Chris King (VAN)

POWER FORWARD
26.0 Karl Malone (UTA)
24.8 Charles Barkley (PHX)
23.6 Chris Webber (WAS) - Missed 67 games
22.6 Shawn Kemp (SEA)
19.8 Larry Johnson (CHA)
18.4 Vin Baker (MIL)
18.0 Dino Radja (BOS)
18.0 Elden Campbell (LAL)
17.9 Horace Grant (ORL)
17.6 Armen Gilliam (NJN)
17.2 Joe Smith (GSW)
16.9 Tom Gugliotta (MIN)
16.7 Loy Vaught (LAC)
16.2 Grant Long (ATL)
15.8 Brian Grant (SAC)
15.7 Otis Thorpe (DET)
15.6 Antonio McDyess (DEN)
15.1 Charles Oakley (NYK)
14.3 Dale Davis (IND)
14.3 Ed Pinckney (PHI)
14.2 Danny Ferry (CLE)
13.9 Carlos Rogers (TOR)
13.7 Chucky Brown (HOU)
13.6 Dennis Rodman (CHI)
13.5 Kurt Thomas (MIA)
13.4 Popeye Jones (DAL)
11.3 Charles Smith (SAS)
10.4 Harvey Grant (POR)
6.9 Anthony Avent (VAN)

CENTER
29.4 David Robinson (SAS)
26.4 Shaquille O'Neal (ORL)
25.5 Hakeem Olajuwon (HOU)
24.7 Arvydas Sabonis (POR)
22.7 Alonzo Mourning (MIA)
21.0 Gheorghe Muresan (WAS)
20.9 Patrick Ewing (NYK)
19.0 Rik Smits (IND)
17.7 Christian Laettner (ATL)
17.4 Vlade Divac (LAL)
17.1 Dikembe Mutombo (DEN)
17.0 Bison Dele (LAC)
16.2 Oliver Miller (TOR)
15.8 Olden Polynice (SAC)
15.7 Shawn Bradley (NJN)
14.6 Benoit Benjamin (MIL)
14.2 Matt Geiger (CHA)
14.2 Rony Seikaly (GSW)
14.1 Michael Cage (CLE)
13.4 Bryant Reeves (VAN)
13.1 Ervin Johnson (SEA)
12.4 John Williams (PHX)
11.9 Luc Longley (CHI)
11.8 Derrick Alston (PHI)
10.6 Eric Montross (BOS)
10.4 Felton Spencer (UTA)
9.6 Lorenzo Williams (DAL)
7.2 Mark West (DET)

SIXTH MEN

PG
17.5 Brent Price (WAS)
16.8 Sam Cassell (HOU)
16.7 Terry Dehere (LAC)
15.6 Dana Barros (BOS)
15.2 Steve Kerr (CHI)
14.3 Jalen Rose (DEN)
11.2 Lindsey Hunter (DET)
10.2 Brian Shaw (ORL)

SG
15.9 Brent Barry (LAC)
15.9 Tim Legler (WAS)
15.2 Tony Dumas (DAL)
15.1 Dan Majerle (CLE)
14.8 Hubert Davis (NYK)
13.0 Byron Scott (VAN)

SF
20.4 Toni Kukoc (CHI)
16.8 Tracy Murray (TOR)
16.7 Chris Mullin (GSW)
15.9 George McCloud (DAL)
14.7 Dale Ellis (DEN)
13.6 Chuck Person (SAS)
13.0 Sam Mitchell (MIN)
11.1 Lamond Murray (LAC)
10.0 Keith Askins (MIA)

PF
21.1 Magic Johnson (LAL)
16.4 Jayson Williams (NJN)
13.9 Antonio Davis (IND)
13.9 Terry Cummings (MIL)
13.8 Adam Keefe (UTA)
12.9 A.C. Green (PHX)
11.8 Rasheed Wallace (WAS)

C
15.4 Sam Perkins (SEA)
13.0 Robert Parish (CHA)
12.2 Chris Dudley (POR)

[Real2KInsider]

Comparing your ratings to the top 5 for each position....

POINT GUARD
25.2 Terrell Brandon (CLE) - 86 OVR
24.6 Anfernee Hardaway (ORL) - 85 OVR (All-NBA 1st)
22.8 Kevin Johnson (PHX) - 88 OVR
21.9 John Stockton (UTA) - 90 OVR (All-NBA 2nd)
19.6 Gary Payton (SEA) - 94 OVR (All-NBA 2nd)

No longer held back by Mark Price, Brandon had a career year and was the main reason the Cavs were a playoff team. Absolutely should have been All-NBA over someone like Mitch Richmond.

Prime Penny was arguably the best guard in the league after MJ.

Gary Payton was a good two-way player and perhaps the best defensive player the position has ever seen, but he wasn't a transcendent offensive player by any stretch.

SHOOTING GUARD
29.4 Michael Jordan (CHI) - 99 OVR (All-NBA 1st)
20.1 Reggie Miller (IND) - 90 OVR (All-NBA 3rd)
20.0 Clyde Drexler (HOU) - 91 OVR
19.2 Mitch Richmond (SAC) - 88 OVR (All-NBA 3rd)
19.1 Jeff Hornacek (UTA) - 81 OVR

Jordan was out of his prime at this stage, and one could make a case for prime David Robinson (the 95 MVP/DPOY) being just as valuable.

Pretty big gap between Jordan and the rest of the crowd (which was part of his greatness), I wouldn't rate any of these guys over Penny who was in his athletic prime. There wasn't a 10-point gap between old Jeff Hornacek and old Clyde Drexler.

SMALL FORWARD
22.1 Cedric Ceballos (LAL) - 88 OVR
21.0 Scottie Pippen (CHI) - 93 OVR (All-NBA 1st)
20.9 Grant Hill (DET) - 84 OVR (All-NBA 2nd)
17.8 Glen Rice (CHA) - 87 OVR
17.3 Detlef Scrhempf (SEA) - 83 OVR

Obviously Pippen's defense put him over Ceballos. Pippen was the best SF in the league though the competition was obviously thin. Grant Hill seems underrated with that in mind, while Glen Rice could stand to drop quite a bit.

Doubling back on an earlier point - Toni Kukoc was the 4th best SF in 1996.

POWER FORWARD
26.0 Karl Malone (UTA) - 92 OVR (All-NBA 1st)
24.8 Charles Barkley (PHX) - 90 OVR (All-NBA 3rd)
23.6 Chris Webber (WAS) - 87 OVR
22.6 Shawn Kemp (SEA) - 88 OVR (All-NBA 2nd)
19.8 Larry Johnson (CHA) - 87 OVR

Larry Johnson always had a bigger name than his game - this was actually his career year.

CENTER
29.4 David Robinson (SAS) - 91 OVR (All-NBA 1st)
26.4 Shaquille O'Neal (ORL) - 93 OVR (All-NBA 3rd)
25.5 Hakeem Olajuwon (HOU) - 96 OVR (All-NBA 2nd)
24.7 Arvydas Sabonis (POR) - 80 OVR
22.7 Alonzo Mourning (MIA) - 93 OVR

Prime Admiral always seems to be criminally underrated in hoops circles. His supporting cast was hot garbage until Duncan hit the scene. Case in point, you have Patrick Ewing 93 OVR (overrated) and Ewing was basically never better than Robinson at any point in the 90s.

Arvydas Sabonis had an overlooked rookie season and was the REAL rookie of the year (not Damon Stoudamire), partly because he was technically a 31-year old veteran. Sabonis averaged 15/8/2 on 55% shooting in only 24 MPG.