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Old 05-25-2019, 09:09 PM   #1
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Teams that are slow tempo/don't fastbreak

Name teams that were SLOW tempo, never really had much of a fastbreak even they had opportunities to do so. Older rosters would make the most sense. Also, curious if any teams in the 1980's played this way.

Teams that come to mind:
Pat Riley's Knicks and Heat Teams of the 90's
91 Lakers
Larry Brown's Pacers of Mid 90's
2004 Pistons
2004 Pacers
Any Scott Skiles coached team
11 and 13 Grizzlies Grind teams
08, 10, 12 Celtics
14, 16 Hornets under Clifford

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Old 05-25-2019, 10:10 PM   #2
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Re: Teams that are slow tempo/don't fastbreak

Any Mike Fratello coached team.
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Old 05-28-2019, 07:11 AM   #3
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Name teams that were SLOW tempo, never really had much of a fastbreak even they had opportunities to do so.
It's mostly 90s teams.

1993 Bulls: 92.5 Pace (last)
Armstrong-Jordan-Pippen-Grant-Cartwright

Despite the most athletic wing duo in the league the Bulls never looked to exploit it. Their fastbreaks came almost entirely from their defense.

1994 Spurs: 90.1 Pace
Del Negro-W.Anderson-D.Ellis-Rodman-Robinson

Del Negro was a SG playing PG and Rodman was very much a halfcourt player.

1995 Cavaliers: 82.3 Pace (probably slowest in history)
T.Brandon-Phills-Mills-Ferry-Cage

By design, they were lacking in talent and Fraetello thought minimizing total possessions while maximizing their value (threes in the short line era) were their only chance.

1995 Hawks: 89.8 Pace
Blaylock-S.Smith-Augmon-Long-Lang

Just not an athletic team, Augmon was old by then.

1996 Pistons: 87.7 Pace
Dumars-Houston-G.Hill-Thorpe-M.West

Dumars was a career SG (Hill was basically a point forward here in his prime), the frontcourt was old.


There aren't any recent teams that come close to fitting these molds. The Steve Clifford Hornets had 98 Pace which ranked 8th in 2018.

The slowest 2018 team (the Kings, 94.9 Pace in Zach Randolph's swan song) still had De'Aaron Fox pushing the ball.

This year's slowest team were the Cavs (96.9 Pace) which is also pretty crazy since they were also lead by a speedy rookie PG.
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Slowest teams in franchise history

EASTERN CONFERENCE
2004 76ers (88.0): Eric Snow, Allen Iverson, Glenn Robinson, Kenny Thomas, Samuel Dalembert
1999 Bucks (87.0): Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson, Tim Thomas, Robert Traylor
1999 Bulls (88.1): Ron Harper, Brent Barry, Toni Kukoc, Dickey Simpkins, Mark Bryant
1996 Cavaliers (82.3): Terrell Brandon, Bobby Phills, Chris Mills, Danny Ferry, Michael Cage
2009 Celtics (90.4): Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Kendrick Perkins
1999 Hawks (85.3): Mookie Blaylock, Steve Smith, Chris Crawford, Alan Henderson, Dikembe Mutombo
1999 Heat (84.8): Tim Hardaway, Dan Majerle, Jamal Mashburn, P.J. Brown, Alonzo Mourning
2009 Hornets (): Raymond Felton, Raja Bell, Gerald Wallace, Boris Diaw, Emeka Okafor
2001 Knicks (86.7): Mark Jackson, Allan Houston, Latrell Sprewell, Larry Johnson, Marcus Camby
1998 Magic (87.1): Derek Harper, Nick Anderson, Bo Outlaw, Horace Grant, Rony Seikaly
2013 Nets (88.8): Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, Reggie Evans, Brook Lopez
1999 Pacers (86.4): Mark Jackson, Reggie Miller, Chris Mullin, Dale Davis, Rik Smits
1997 Pistons (84.5): Lindsey Hunter, Joe Dumars, Grant Hill, Otis Thorpe, Theo Ratliff
2004 Raptors (86.8): Jalen Rose, Morris Peterson, Vince Carter, Donyell Marshall, Chris Bosh
2003 Wizards (88.2): Larry Hughes, Jerry Stackhouse, Michael Jordan, Christian Laettner, Brendan Haywood

WESTERN CONFERENCE
2005 Clippers (89.1): Marko Jaric, Corey Maggette, Bobby Simmons, Elton Brand, Chris Kaman
2006 Grizzlies (86.3): Chucky Atkins, Eddie Jones, Shane Battier, Pau Gasol, Jake Tsakalidis
2004 Jazz (86.6): Carlos Arroyo, DeShawn Stevenson, Matt Harpring, Andrei Kirilenko, Greg Ostertag
1997 Kings (91.0): Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, Mitch Richmond, Billy Owens, Michael Smith, Olden Polynice
2012 Lakers (90.5): Ramon Sessions, Kobe Bryant, Ron Artest, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum
2006 Mavericks (87.8): Jason Terry, Adrian Griffin, Josh Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, DeSagana Diop
1998 Nuggets (89.7): Bobby Jackson, Eric Washington, LaPhonso Ellis, Tony Battie, Dean Garrett
2004 Rockets (87.8): Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley, Jim Jackson, Kelvin Cato, Yao Ming
2005 Pelicans (87.6): Dan Dickau, J.R. Smith, Lee Nailon, Jackson Vroman, P.J. Brown
1997 Spurs (87.3): Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro, Dominique Wilkins, Carl Herrera, Will Perdue
1999 Suns (90.0): Jason Kidd, Rex Chapman, Clifford Robinson, Tom Gugliotta, Luc Longley
2005 Thunder/Sonics (87.9): Luke Ridnour, Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Reggie Evans, Jerome James
2006 Timberwolves (88.8): Marko Jaric, Trenton Hassell, Ricky Davis, Kevin Garnett, Mark Blount
2004 Trail Blazers (86.2): Damon Stoudamire, Derek Anderson, Darius Miles, Zach Randolph, Theo Ratliff
1999 Warriors (88.9): Bimbo Coles, John Starks, Antawn Jamison, Donyell Marshall, Erick Dampier

Other notables
1998 Bulls (89.0): Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Luc Longley
1998 Jazz (89.2): John Stockton, Jeff Hornacek, Adam Keefe, Karl Malone, Greg Foster
2004 Pacers (87.5): Jamaal Tinsley, Reggie Miller, Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal, Jeff Foster
2004 Pistons (87.9): Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace
2005 Spurs (88.9): Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan, Rasho Nesterovic
2013 Knicks (89.8): Raymond Felton, Jason Kidd, Iman Shumpert, Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler

Pat Riley didn't come close to having the slowest Knicks teams (91.2 in 1995).
All of Jeff Van Gundy's teams were slower, and so were Mike Woodson's.
Riley's Knicks teams had a young Mark Jackson and John Starks, which is a probable explanation

JVG's also has all the slowest Rockets teams in history. Fraetello had the most extreme run, Popovich had the longest run, but JVG coached the slowest teams for two franchises..
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