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Old 11-29-2020, 12:12 PM   #1
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Anthony Edwards Ratings

Anyone notice Anthony Edwards’ athletic ratings are way lower than they should be? The official roster has his driving dunk at 75 and his vertical at 82.

Feel like those ratings should in the 90s. Thoughts?
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:19 PM   #2
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Anyone notice Anthony Edwards’ athletic ratings are way lower than they should be? The official roster has his driving dunk at 75 and his vertical at 82.

Feel like those ratings should in the 90s. Thoughts?
Quick Google search on Edwards Vertical (normally 2K uses combine results but there was no combine this year).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...nthony-edwards

Started at 39.5 Vert (which is about 90 by scale).

Went to 41.5 Vert, which I personally grade as 99 (I'm not afraid of maxing multiple players which 2K is for whatever misguided philosophical reason).

2K has a habit of staggering scales once ratings get to the 90s, so they'd probably put him at 93-94 or something once someone brings it to their attention.
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:26 PM   #3
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As far as Dunk rating, was able to uncover that Edwards dunked 27 times last year (5.3% of his FGA).

https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.ph...g=0&psort=Dunk

A dunk rating of 75 should suffice, esp if we aren't factoring the lower competition level.
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Old 11-29-2020, 07:01 PM   #4
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Most of his dunks are on the break rather than the half-court.

Reviewing the rest of his ratings
90 Pick & Roll Defense (curious who they copy & pasted his base from)
74 Perimeter Defense (they're being generous)
74 Help Defense (ditto)
92 Shot Contest (uhhhh....)
80 Hustle (no.)
52 Strength (he's 6'5" / 225)
54 Offensive Rebound (this is like 20 points overrated)

Edwards also has ZERO badges (I didn't check but this is likely the case w/ all the rookies).

I would recommend (of the PS4 options):
FINISHING: Contact Finisher, Relentless Finisher, Fastbreak Finisher
SHOOTING: Difficult Shots, Deep Fades, Pump Fake Maestro, Tireless Shooter, Volume Shooter
PLAYMAKING: Downhill, Quick First Step
DEFENSE: None

All told, I have:

Anthony Edwards
79 OVR (+2)
Position: SF/SG (from SG/SF)
Archetype: Slasher (from Mid-Range Specialist)
Badges: 10 (+10)
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Quick Google search on Edwards Vertical (normally 2K uses combine results but there was no combine this year).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...nthony-edwards

Started at 39.5 Vert (which is about 90 by scale).

Went to 41.5 Vert, which I personally grade as 99 (I'm not afraid of maxing multiple players which 2K is for whatever misguided philosophical reason).

2K has a habit of staggering scales once ratings get to the 90s, so they'd probably put him at 93-94 or something once someone brings it to their attention.
I just find it so odd that 2k could drop the ball so badly on this. How could they not know the vertical of the #1 pick and also be so off on the other ratings. I checked on a couple other rookies and they seem to be off in a lot of areas, too. Patrick Williams, for one, really got hated on for his athleticism as well. 2K just being lazy in order to get the class released as soon as possible I guess.
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I just find it so odd that 2k could drop the ball so badly on this. How could they not know the vertical of the #1 pick and also be so off on the other ratings. I checked on a couple other rookies and they seem to be off in a lot of areas, too. Patrick Williams, for one, really got hated on for his athleticism as well. 2K just being lazy in order to get the class released as soon as possible I guess.
That ESPN article w/ the Verts was written on November 15th (3 days before the draft, and took research to discover). It's not data sourced from a table.

As far as 2K being lazy - there are a lot of people who throw that term around and it couldn't be further from the truth. A BAD roster editor (or group of editors) is still putting in hundreds (if not 1000+) of hours of work. There's a difference between being "lazy" and "inefficient". Work ethic isn't 2K's problem.

I think in general people underestimate how time consuming roster editing is. Most of 2K's editing is processed in bulk, rather than focusing on individuals. They'd want a list of official Verticals so they can update them across the board, rather than having to rely on Google guesswork for each individual player.

You can see from my post time stamps that I spent about 40 minutes working on ratings & badges for Edwards. Lets say I spent 10 minutes of that typing up my post - it took about 30 minutes to effectively rate & grade a player and also update my roster & database.

Now multiply that by 30 first rounders. That's 15 hours. That might not seem like a lot, but it definitely is.
There are 500 players in the NBA at all times. That's 15,000 minutes. 250 hours. There are 168 in a week. We sleep about 42 hours per week. Eating and all the other life functions.

One could spend a month editing and then be wildly out of date once games are being played. Now factor in the financial costs (salaries) that would accrue from keeping up this way.

It ain't like 2K is out here playing Minesweeper rather than updating rosters. They work around the clock, it's just a substantial amount of data to crunch.
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These are fair points but Edwards is the #1 draft pick not a 2nd rounder.
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These are fair points but Edwards is the #1 draft pick not a 2nd rounder.
My thoughts exactly.
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