The "Modern Era" has woeful, unrealistic gameplay

[Pistol44PeteMaravich]

I've played a fair few games in each era.

I can hand on heart say that Magic/Bird, Jordan, Kobe and LeBron era all have realistic and enjoyable gameplay. Without even using sliders, you can have an enjoyable game with realistic scorelines and stat lines. Moreover, a lot of historical players feel like they played in real life. Plays and movement on the court all feels very really.

Then comes the Modern Era. It's awful. Every game goes to 130-140+ and 60% FG, there are nearly no steals, blocks, fouls or offensive rebounds and no amount of tweaking with sliders seems to change this. The AI spends half the time running into you or running down the shot clock. Every play feels the same. Every player feels like they just play to their position.

I've been playing these games for the last 20 years and this era on 2K24 and 2K25 is comfortably the most miserable I've ever been playing them.

I know people will say "Then don't play the modern era" but that's what I want to play. I want to play out the entirety of the upcoming season with one team and it's impossible to do this as a lover of Basketball because this era simply isn't Basketall.

I've given up. I'll use this game to sim seasons and try to build teams, but to actually play it? This isn't Basketball nor does it half replicate a real NBA game at all.

[STLRams]

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Haven't purchased 2K25 yet, still releases to early in my opinion but I have been curious about the Era's mode. Has the Bird/Magic, Jordan and Kobe era players play more realisticly than 2K24? I felt like in 2K24 some of the players did to an extended by I still had to do a ton of editing to get the players/teams to play like they use to in real life.

[leoribas3]

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Thats absolutely not my experience. The gameplay is really good, and you saying tweaking sliders and tendencies doesnt change anything is just a flat out lie.

The game allows us to edit every single players attributes and tendencies, plus all the sliders in general. We can pretty much make the game play exactly how we want. Theres also coaching adjustment, too.

Put steals at 100, body up sensitivity at 100, change the shot success sliders, edit the freaking rosters if you want to, if you say every team scores 140 points, and shoot 60%fg every game, then comeback to the thread with your results.

I dare you lol.


The sliders and settings absolutely work.

I get being frustrated, but yall just decide to come on the forum and start hating on the game without changing a single setting to make the game work for you.

Cmon bro.

"impossible to play, this era isnt basketball" yet thousands of us here are enjoying the heck out of this game, probably the best 2k ever. This is a you problem.

[Scioto2024]

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Thats absolutely not my experience. The gameplay is really good, and you saying tweaking sliders and tendencies doesnt change anything is just a flat out lie.

The game allows us to edit every single players attributes and tendencies, plus all the sliders in general. We can pretty much make the game play exactly how we want. Theres also coaching adjustment, too.

Put steals at 100, body up sensitivity at 100, change the shot success sliders, edit the freaking rosters if you want to, if you say every team scores 140 points, and shoot 60%fg every game, then comeback to the thread with your results.

I dare you lol.


The sliders and settings absolutely work.

I get being frustrated, but yall just decide to come on the forum and start hating on the game without changing a single setting to make the game work for you.

Cmon bro.

"impossible to play, this era isnt basketball" yet thousands of us here are enjoying the heck out of this game, probably the best 2k ever. This is a you problem.

I had a great game last night when changing tendencies. And I am not having games in the 140-150 range. More 100-115.

Tweaks suck, but that’s any game you play in 2024.

[DonWuan]

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Sorry sounds like user error if the cpu is putting up 140+ pts on you.

[SageInfinite]

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I agree. Game is absolute trash this year. Just deleted it for the second time. I gotta be done. I LOVE NBA 2K, but I just can’t with this year.

[res2]

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To each their own. I find this maybe the best 2K I've ever played...and I've been playing 2K for something like 15 years.

But you gotta use the tools available (sliders and roster edits) to make it all work.

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[JAY_D1]

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Everyone has an opinion, Ive been a bit frustrated at this game but I still enjoy the heck out of it.

I do understand people have a need to express their frustration in a way most don't agree with.

Its quite okay to put the controller down and walk outside if this aint the game for you.

Change the settings, so many options out here to get somewhere close to where you want.

NBA Live is not and WILL NOT walk through that door.

989 Sports not walking through that door to give you NBA 25 from Sony.

Take some time to figure out how mot get some enjoyment out the game, there are so many ways to have some fun Im sure.


To each their own though

[cybergates]

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I've played a fair few games in each era.

I can hand on heart say that Magic/Bird, Jordan, Kobe and LeBron era all have realistic and enjoyable gameplay. Without even using sliders, you can have an enjoyable game with realistic scorelines and stat lines. Moreover, a lot of historical players feel like they played in real life. Plays and movement on the court all feels very really.

Then comes the Modern Era. It's awful. Every game goes to 130-140+ and 60% FG, there are nearly no steals, blocks, fouls or offensive rebounds and no amount of tweaking with sliders seems to change this. The AI spends half the time running into you or running down the shot clock. Every play feels the same. Every player feels like they just play to their position.

I've been playing these games for the last 20 years and this era on 2K24 and 2K25 is comfortably the most miserable I've ever been playing them.

I know people will say "Then don't play the modern era" but that's what I want to play. I want to play out the entirety of the upcoming season with one team and it's impossible to do this as a lover of Basketball because this era simply isn't Basketall.

I've given up. I'll use this game to sim seasons and try to build teams, but to actually play it? This isn't Basketball nor does it half replicate a real NBA game at all.

You might try this from another post and see if the playbook fix for current teams helps your Modern Era be more like previous Eras.

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...ervations.html

1st post explains something the OP found about a "harcoded" issue with current team playbooks and a fix for it.

"1. Current team playbooks have hardcoded sets that take precedent over plays. This makes the "run plays" coaching slider practically redundant.
This hard code also lessens the impact of the touches tendency for the most part.
This was an issue in 2k21. Made it very difficult to edit rosters and get teams and players to respond to edits and not overuse a particular player without significantly lowering their touches tendency thus causing issues down the stretch.
This was not a problem with 2k23. But it's back in 2k25. (I skipped 2k24)
The fix is to replace the current playbook with a classic or user playbook. Then adjust the suitable plays for said team.

The non current playbooks don't seem to be "hard coded" and will actually respond to your edits and much more often utilise the plays you put in the playbook. And "run plays" coaching slider will actually be effective.

This is a must for you hardcore roster editors who want a better cpu gameplay experience."

All credit to nogster not myself. Just trying to help.

[alabamarob]

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Best basketball game ever this year. They did an excellent job. My only complaints are the passing, CPU shooting, and chase down blocks.

They nailed everything else.

[Pistol44PeteMaravich]

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I must not be playing the same game as everyone else.

I don't feel like messing with sliders after paying $70-80 for a game. I'm not doing their job for them. 2K should be ensuring it's realistic.

Fouls are nowhere near high enough. Steals are nowhere near high enough.

And for those saying I'm just bad at the game. I can't control all 5 players at once. Screens are OP and if the AI runs enough off-ball screens they will get guys open and the AI very rarely misses an open shot. It's very hard for me to keep the CPU to 50% shooting and often it's closer to 60%.

Also, your players controlled by the AI contesting shots seems to do absolutely nothing to deter the shot.

As such, I now have to abuse screens to keep up with them and the game ceases to become realistic.

Even if I did mess with sliders, there's a very fine balance between too high shooting and too low shooting.

In essence, more fouls, more steals and the AI not shooting 80% from open shots (not even Steph Curry in his peak did that) would fix my problems.

[JAY_D1]

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I must not be playing the same game as everyone else.

I don't feel like messing with sliders after paying $70-80 for a game. I'm not doing their job for them. 2K should be ensuring it's realistic.

Fouls are nowhere near high enough. Steals are nowhere near high enough.

And for those saying I'm just bad at the game. I can't control all 5 players at once. Screens are OP and if the AI runs enough off-ball screens they will get guys open and the AI very rarely misses an open shot. It's very hard for me to keep the CPU to 50% shooting and often it's closer to 60%.

Also, your players controlled by the AI contesting shots seems to do absolutely nothing to deter the shot.

As such, I now have to abuse screens to keep up with them and the game ceases to become realistic.

Even if I did mess with sliders, there's a very fine balance between too high shooting and too low shooting.

In essence, more fouls, more steals and the AI not shooting 80% from open shots (not even Steph Curry in his peak did that) would fix my problems.

You paid that amount to play the game they way you want. You literally have the tools to customize the game you want.

I been playing 2k since Dreamcast days, I loved the fact I could have 1 minute game versus the 2 minute NBA Live had. Are NBA games 1 minute, of course not, but u can make it for your world.

Realistic is subjective. Use the sliders if its not high enough for you, tweak the tendencies. There are too may sliders for you to customize the game to be this frustrated.

I definitely think its not the game that is making you frustrated, its something else man.

This is a video game, not a real life counterpart. Certain things aren't going to be 100%, but there are a lot of options that can help you get the gameplay you looking for.

If you cant find enjoyment in this game, i'm sure there is a Gamestop or if you digitally downloaded it, Uninstall and walk outside.

Sliders are your friend and if you don't recognize that, it is what it is. 2K will never knock out 100% of everything ever but take a look at the other posters trying to help your experience. Take their advice and see how that works for your gameplay.

[Pistol44PeteMaravich]

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You paid that amount to play the game they way you want. You literally have the tools to customize the game you want.

I been playing 2k since Dreamcast days, I loved the fact I could have 1 minute game versus the 2 minute NBA Live had. Are NBA games 1 minute, of course not, but u can make it for your world.

Realistic is subjective. Use the sliders if its not high enough for you, tweak the tendencies. There are too may sliders for you to customize the game to be this frustrated.

I definitely think its not the game that is making you frustrated, its something else man.

This is a video game, not a real life counterpart. Certain things aren't going to be 100%, but there are a lot of options that can help you get the gameplay you looking for.

If you cant find enjoyment in this game, i'm sure there is a Gamestop or if you digitally downloaded it, Uninstall and walk outside.

Sliders are your friend and if you don't recognize that, it is what it is. 2K will never knock out 100% of everything ever but take a look at the other posters trying to help your experience. Take their advice and see how that works for your gameplay.

I didn't realise we had a professional psychologist here so thank you for telling me that it can't be the game irritating me, it must be something else.

I'm not asking for a perfect reflection of reality. I'm asking for something that resembles basketball. Every game being 130+ and the AI shooting 80% from open shots is not resembling real basketball.

I've too been playing a while. I remember playing 2K3 with Allen Iverson on the cover and I remember being fully in love with the game since 2K5.

I've seen this game become consistently less of a basketball simulator and more into a gimmick after 2K14.

I live in Europe and whilst I love the NBA, it's a bit hard for me to stay up and watch the games often at 3am. I do tape them to watch on the weekend, but it's not quite the same. So basketball games help a little bit fill the void of the sport I love. I'd just ask the game to be 75% realistic and it's hard for me to say it's even 50% realistic when the AI shoots so well, there are barely any free throws or steals.

[Pistol44PeteMaravich]

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Yeah I give up. No need to worry about responding. I'm done. 2K devs are complete awful imbeciles who think everyone should shoot 60% and make Steph Curry look like an amateur. Don't need to worry about seeing me around here anymore I'm completely done with this awful game.

[JAY_D1]

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All good.

Hey Mods,

Lets lock this thread please.