Examining Mygm and why it's vc implementation is good

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by RED BULL

Honestly, if you are incapable of understanding that in real life, one gm cannot do all of the things that you are asking to do, then I can't help you. We are talking about mygm mode, what do you think is wrong with it, not including things that are unrealistic to the mode. This is like you telling me that in my career you want the ability to sign free agents or make trades. And you are angry because you feel limited. Do players in the real world have this ability? Now, if the only thing that you find wrong with mygm is that it is not association mode, which is similar, but in concept cannot be the same, then we shouldn't bother continuing this discussion. I'm just trying to see what others like and don't like about the mode, encompassing what the mode is supposed to be

but in mygm you are not only the gm but your gm is also the coach and you control every player on your team on the court. do gms irl have that much control over the team?

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by RED BULL

It is unrealistic, in my opinion it should be removed. Why? Bad draft. Look at the stats of the guy the cavs drafted, things happen. The CPU doesn't shoot 75% from 3 and I have the slider at 47. Is vc a necessity? Sure. If ur playing an RPG, I hope you don't think you can win without leveling up, the boss would kill you right? So in 2k,u would just get fired if you are unable to complete your goals at your current level. So you want to have 30 gms? Lol, you can't even have 30 my players so that couldn't happen at all.

not with the right strategies. pretty much every rpg ive ever played has (user-created) challenges online to beat the game without leveling up.

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by RED BULL

I'm not saying don't speak on it, but you are mad at one game mode, because it isn't another. Isn't that unfair? That's like looking at porsche and looking at a benz and getting mad at the porsche becuse it isn't a benz. Sure they have similarity in that they are both cars, but they are different experiences. I don't get how you can be so closed minded in that you can't discuss one thing and what u like and don't like, without comparing it to something else. Don't you understand why it can't be association? Can you not do everything you asked in a quick game modes. You can have all the control you want, put any player where u want, male ur own schedule. Heck, I'll give u a piece of paper so u can keep your own stats. All the control you want, becuse quick game allows it.

youre alluding to the rpg elements of the game; in that case why dont we have to start out as an assistant coach or even a trainer then work our way up to gm? that would be more realistic than starting as a gm with none of the skills required to be successful.

back to the association vs mygm argument: i wouldnt get mad at a porsche because its not a benz. but i would get mad if someone took away my benz and gave me a porsche instead. thats the difference here. they took away something that everyone liked and replaced it with something else.

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by RED BULL

Thank you for this response, but if people don't want to be one gm, don't play the mode, and don't complain about not being able to do certain things in it that go against what the mode is , go play quick game, all the control they want is there.

this sounds eerily similar to don mattricks response to the always online requirement of the xbox one:

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Some of the advantages that you get, of having, a box that is designed to use an online state, so, that, uh, to me is the future-proof choice, and I think people, could've arguably gone the other way if we didn't do it and fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360.

so if you dont like mygm dont play it. fortunately we have a product for anyone who wants to have control. its called nba 2k14 on the pc/ps3/xbox 360.

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by RED BULL

Yea, I'm probably a 2k spy trying to get you to see the light. Fantasy draft should never have been in there imo and I don't believe I've ever used it in a 2k game. It is a video game, but you also don't see purple or green people, or coaches with flaming hair so I think they are trying to be realistic to the actual product, which is why the nba granted them the license.... 30 team control doesn't hurt me, but it also doesn't make sense within the scope of mygm

im sorry i couldnt resist

[Smokie36]

How about keep MyGM just like it is for those people that like that and for the rest of us that want total control of everything in the league they can add a MyCommissioner mode.

[Ramboooo]

Spoiler

Quote: Originally Posted by RED BULL

Let's have a discussion that encompasses not only mygm as a whole, but the vc implementation in it, which I consider a good addition, of not a too over powering one This is all my opinion of course, I am not right, my opinion is not the only that matters, but try and hear me out and then let's discuss what you think about it firstly, let's get a few things out of the way here and please let's never discuss these factors again in this thread : -stop whining about having to pay 500 vc just to change rotations, yes we all know it's stupid and shouldn't be there, but if you are truly still complaining about this, you need to stop, you are already given like 1k I'm Vc to start the game when u get it, you are given free vc codes constantly, when u get drafted in my career, u get 5000 vc for absolutely nothing, and there's an app that can easily net you 1k vc per day and more simply by opening it and pressing a button. Stop complaining about this 500 vc to change rotations, you pay it once and never pay it again. -let's not talk about the bugs and people magically losing vc or their GM rating. This doesn't happen to everyone, I am sorry for your loss, but let's not discuss bugs or vc in this respect from this point forward, there are other threads that do so. -30 team control is unrealistic, I don't care that you find CPU trades or signings unrealistic, I don't care that you want to control more than one team. This is MYGM, not association, there is no sport in which one GM controls everybody or multiple teams. Let's stop talking about this, it's nonsensical. -also, trade override is unrealistic, using it makes you a cheater , and once again, it doesn't make sense and gives you too much control. No GM in real life can flip some switch and control every team or make any trade happen whenever they want. This is not association mode, this is a mode in which you play a role and are a person, with goals. Now, let's discuss mygm. This mode is a sizeable improvement Starting from players getting mad about their roles and playing time, to certain assistant GMs trying to steal your job, to a much better generic player draft, and some great vc implementations that, are so great that some are even overpowering and should be scaled back in 2k15. The majority of my team, due to the things you can buy with vc, now has 99 stamina or an extremely high awareness rating. You are allowed to upgrade way too much, in such a way that you can turn any team into a super team, just by purchasing these facility upgrades. There is even a my GM upgrade that allows all facility bonuses to get +3, which obviously makes you even more over powered I now am in possession of a 97 overall Dwayne wade because if this, and a lebron with 99 offensive, defensive awareness, 99 quickness and 99 stamina. Not to mention a demarcus cousins with 95 stamina the, a full 20 points higher than his original stamina number, just through these vc purchases alone, and I can still buy another facility upgrade that will boost his quickness to 62 and stamina to 99. Facility upgrades also give the user too much power in trade negotiation, due to a flaw that makes every facility upgrade boost given to your player basically non existent during trades (meaning if you boosted a player through the upgrades, when you go to trade them, you see their original overall) except for upgrades to player potential. Meaning, you can easily pay to boost your players potential, increase their value, and trade for another player, in a deal that is obviously unfair to the CPU because I believe once that player leaves your team, the potential boost they receive dissappears. And also, the moment you get the player you traded for, their potential also gets the boost. This is all to say that the user is given to many unfair advantages in mygm because of vc, however, if they were to cut down on the +# you get for each upgrade, they can perfect it and make it alot more balanced. Is my gm still missing things like the d league? Yes, but so did association. Could some things be refined? Sure, but this mode is in its first year. Is it an improved over association and more realistic? Without question. The ability to pep talk your players and try to get their morale up, or even lower their morale for a few games in order to have them play better is a nice addition. Talking to the media after a big trade is pretty cool and I wish there were more press conferences. The effect the luxury tax has on your profits is a nice addition because you have to choose whether to disobey your owner by adding more salary through better players, or be a cheap team with less debt and more flexibility when free agency comes around Players get mad when you try and trade for players at their position and you have to console them and tell them either the truth, or you can lie. All these things make the game more realistic and a better experience than association ever was in my opinion, and I really think that anyone that complains about this mode and the way it is, are thinking about it in the wrong way. This is not association mode, it may look like it, but they are two different things, two different experiences, and one is giving you or attempting to give you a real experience, while the other is an arcade game with unrealistic options Is mygm perfect? No, it could use some improvements, you can be a bit overpowered, but it's better than the association ever was.

Get what you're saying -- these new modes are pretty high achievements and go above and beyond -- but at the end of the day, this is a videogame. People want options and customization. No one ever complained about too many options or too much customization. I wouldn't ever want to concede options and say oh well it's just part of the game. In this day and age gamers expect all the fixins with their sports games. I think it's excusable this year because this is the first game on the next gen consoles, but imo 2K15 should be entirely about -

1. Customization
2. Options
3. Less VC overkill
4. Fixing the bugs, fixing the servers (ever?), cleaning it up, refining the game
5. A fancy new feature

[da ThRONe]

The very nature of something being ones opinion makes it impossible to call a thought wrong, but the basis that VC somehow makes this game better is highly illogical.


As it's been pointed out an insane amount of times. Why would I to pay for something that should be build into the game? I don't disagree with the premise of a RPG like feel in all 'MyWHATEVER' modes the problem is it's implementation. VC was created for one purpose only and that was to squeeze more money out of the consumer. Other wise it would have just remained 'skill points' and would continue to be collect playing the game.


VC adds nothing in terms of realism. If anything VC stagnant any real progress to be made in MyGM or MyPLAYER. 'Skill points' aren't realistic in itself. What we should have been looking at going into this new generation of consoles were more lifelike progression. Centered around practices, in game performances, and experience. Seriously what's realistic about improving my vertical 12' in a month. Or going from an awful talent evaluator to Sam Presti in a month? What we should be looking at is an end to the cookie cutter that Player/GM building. For the whole purpose of the 'MyWHATEVER' mode is the feel of really doing something. What's real about upgrading attributes you don't even work on. This is what VC represents at a small cost none the less.