Home

Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

This is a discussion on Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague? within the NBA 2K Basketball forums.

Go Back   Operation Sports Forums > Basketball > NBA 2K Basketball
MLB The Show 24 Review: Another Solid Hit for the Series
New Star GP Review: Old-School Arcade Fun
Where Are Our College Basketball Video Game Rumors?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-21-2014, 10:22 PM   #49
Banned
 
OVR: 2
Join Date: Sep 2012
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghayghay
That's AWESOME to hear - only thing that keeps this game from being amazing for me. Some feedback on the scouting:

Three major issues:

A) CPU drafts stupidly - too much error, it feels like they did not even look at the mocks
Computer drafting should reflect the mock drafts much much more (somebody being picked 5 spots earlier or later should be rare, someone being picked 10 spots up or down, should be very rare - especially when we are looking at the first round).

B) Mock drafts are too accurate
Mocks draft are almost too good now (meaning they rank the players in terms of ratings and potential pretty much perfectly - this is where the busts & sleepers should be reflected - have a 69 rated player projected to be picked #4 once in a while and a 74 projected to be picked 25th - don't get crazy but have one or two per draft)

C) Users should not have perfect information
3) User should not have PERFECT information.

Depending on scout ability, there should be a variance in the attributes (actually we should just be able to see the grades, and there should be variance there - like a B, should show up as B+, B or B- for a good scout and a C+, B-, B, B+, A- for a bad scout. If done with the attributes, it should be done with the same mentality of having errors int the rating. Not sure how hard this is to draft.

Also, accuracy should improve the ore you scout a player. I'd make it take much more visits to scout someone - so you actually do have to make choices. Have it so that scouting someone to 60% is very easy, like 1 visit, but scouting someone to 95% takes 6-7 visits. You want to feel very confident about certains players at the expense of knowing more about others..

Looking fwd to the patch. Any ETA on this?


I do agree with B a lot. I was doing a test sim and when I got to the draft I wasn't even trying was just trying to see what kind of rankings you saw in the draft to see what I should have the draft quality at and I noticed even with just picking the players with where the are on the mock draft and not really looking at any thing eles that I was getting a good amount of picks.
darkknightrises is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2014, 10:25 PM   #50
Hall Of Fame
 
redsox4evur's Arena
 
OVR: 0
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Boston
Blog Entries: 4
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkknightrises
I don't know if this is really that big of an issue. I did a few test sims with draft quality at 25 and most of the guys in the second rounds who only in the 50's second round had a lot more misses just like real life. I heard last year that like 20 of the 30 second round picks never even got to play a game in the NBA last year. Even in the late first round I didn't see many guys above like 65-69.
It is a HUGE issue...Where did Wiggins and Parker go last year 1 & 2. In every mock draft/big board where were they ranked 1 & 2. One of the issues is that you have top 5 projected picks falling into the second round. That has never happened to my knowledge in real life.
__________________
Follow me on Twitter
redsox4evur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2014, 11:31 PM   #51
NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
 
OVR: 13
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Novato, CA, USA
Posts: 1,256
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

The patch that was released today for PC and is pending for release on PS4 & X1 includes the tuning for the draft and who gets picked where. I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but I'm hoping that it's much improved. Let me know what you see when you get a chance.
__________________
Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
Novato, CA, USA
Leftos is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisements - Register to remove
Old 10-22-2014, 01:05 AM   #52
Banned
 
OVR: 2
Join Date: Sep 2012
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leftos
The patch that was released today for PC and is pending for release on PS4 & X1 includes the tuning for the draft and who gets picked where. I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but I'm hoping that it's much improved. Let me know what you see when you get a chance.


What else dose is that patch going to improve?
darkknightrises is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2014, 01:07 AM   #53
Banned
 
OVR: 2
Join Date: Sep 2012
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Quote:
Originally Posted by redsox4evur
It is a HUGE issue...Where did Wiggins and Parker go last year 1 & 2. In every mock draft/big board where were they ranked 1 & 2. One of the issues is that you have top 5 projected picks falling into the second round. That has never happened to my knowledge in real life.


I am not sure about the draft board but that could just be the way the game simulates draft bust. I do know in the NFL back when Arron rogers was drafted people thought he was going to be a top 10 pick and he ended up sliding down to like 23 or something.
darkknightrises is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2014, 08:25 AM   #54
Hall Of Fame
 
redsox4evur's Arena
 
OVR: 0
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Boston
Blog Entries: 4
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkknightrises
I am not sure about the draft board but that could just be the way the game simulates draft bust. I do know in the NFL back when Aaron Rodgers was drafted people thought he was going to be a top 10 pick and he ended up sliding down to like 23 or something.
You can't compare two completely different sports. If you look at the NBA you can't win it all if you don't have at least 2 superstar nowadays. So there shouldn't be guys that are top 5 picks falling to the end of the first or the beginning of the second.
__________________
Follow me on Twitter
redsox4evur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2014, 11:23 PM   #55
Banned
 
OVR: 2
Join Date: Sep 2012
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Quote:
Originally Posted by redsox4evur
You can't compare two completely different sports. If you look at the NBA you can't win it all if you don't have at least 2 superstar nowadays. So there shouldn't be guys that are top 5 picks falling to the end of the first or the beginning of the second.


Oh I don't know about not being able to win inless you have at least 2 superstars has there are only like 4 superstars in the whole league to me and spurs won this last year with out any superstar.
darkknightrises is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisements - Register to remove
Old 10-22-2014, 11:44 PM   #56
Hall Of Fame
 
redsox4evur's Arena
 
OVR: 0
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Boston
Blog Entries: 4
Re: Questionable drafting by the computer in myleague?

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkknightrises
Oh I don't know about not being able to win inless you have at least 2 superstars has there are only like 4 superstars in the whole league to me and spurs won this last year with out any superstar.
OK fine if you want to technical then change it to just 2 stars.
__________________
Follow me on Twitter
redsox4evur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

« Operation Sports Forums > Basketball > NBA 2K Basketball »



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:05 PM.
Top -