Lakers

[thaone08]

Since i'm doing a Lakers GM Mode, was wondering is there anyone out there that would love to share what they did with their team so far. With me I traded for Nikola Vučević from the Magic. I know he would never be traded in real life but I needed a legit low post presence and he the best big man I had on the Lakers since Pau Gasol. Since I run the triangle offense he fits perfectly.

I traded for Michael Gilchrist since I needed a legit defensive presence in the lineup and he does the job and so much more. Along with those two trades I ended up firing Byron Scott and Johnny Davis. Last but not least I traded for Dennis Schroder, thabo sefolosha and John Jenkins so I can have some depth off the bench and a young point guard in my starting lineup.

I traded away bad contracts and some picks ( to the Magic and Hawks). Still trying to decide on what to do with Julius Randle since I don't think he'll fit with this team but time will tell. Currently 3-5 in my gm mode.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Seems like Randle fits to me on paper anyway

[erickonasis]

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i got rid of Randle immediately

[asterisk]

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I signed Andrew Bynum off Free Agency to a 1-year deal... because it's funny.

[erickonasis]

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I signed Andrew Bynum off Free Agency to a 1-year deal... because it's funny.

Thought i was the only one who did this

[thaone08]

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Jim and his daughter wouldve fired your ***...u just ruined the lakers man lol

At this point I think anyone on this site have done a better job in 2k rebuilding teams then Jim have done in the past 3 years. Some of these trades was just trades I made to see how I could take advantage of the AI. I have two GM modes with one being a more realistic one and one being this one I'm doing now.

[Eaglerock562]

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I'm starting my Lakers MyGM mode and I'm not planning on making any trades til the time calls for them. In all honesty, the way the team is structured Steve Nash's expiring contract would be the one I deal away with, but I'm not about to take advantage of the A.I. if they were to agree to a trade because it's just to going to be realistic cause he it ain't happening in reality. What I am going to do is once Nick Young returns from his thumb injury is hope that along with Kobe and Wesley Johnson and Jordan Hill that the Lakers can play well enough on both ends of the floor to get a 6-8 seed in the playoffs. I'm going to develop Randle and I'm going to make sure that Clarkson gets minutes cause he is going to end up being the steal of the NBA Draft.

In the offseason I'm going to put my focus on either Kevin Love or Rajon Rondo and I'm going to do everything to get Kobe to sign one more extension but this time giving back to the organization and taking less money so that I can go out and get Durant or Westbrook or another top free agent to get him ring number 6 or by then he should be able to break Kareem's record.

[thaone08]

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I like the way you think and that's what i'm doing in one of my gm modes. In real life I know Lakers would trade Nash if they could get a star back so i'm trying to see if I should trade Nash and one of the bigs for maybe D-Will. Nets get a first round pick, Nash contract and maybe Lin or Hill along with a 2nd round pick.

I think that would be a realistic trade since Nets want to start over so they get a few picks along with expiring deals in Nash and Lin or Hill. I'm trying to build a team so I can run the triangle offense and in this game you need a guy with a legit post presence that can least pass decently.

[Eaglerock562]

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A Steve Nash trade only makes sense for the Lakers if they can somehow get a first round pick for the 2015 draft to comeback in the deal, because the risk of their 2015 draft pick that has to be in the top 5 or it goes to Phoenix is to much. Now they will have a first round pick in the draft that will be coming from Houston as part of the Lin deal, but that pick might be anywhere from 16-30 and the Lakers can't do what they have done in the past with future draft picks and just ship them out in trades because before when they did that they had a core group of players together and under contract that could contend for championships year after year. Gotta remember that.

One other note, I just downloaded the roster update for 2K and I am extremely insulted that Kobe Bryant has been dropped to an overall rating of 85? Are you kidding me? I'm sorry, but no way is Carmelo an overall 89 and you drop Kobe down from an 89 to an 85. If this is 2K trying to motivate Kobe let me just say 4 letters...E.S.P.N....they got on the Kobe ***** wagon before the season started and whats he done so far....3rd in the league in scoring and was actually leading the league in scoring for what, 2-3 weeks of the season this year? Ok, yeah his shooting is under par, I'm not disputing that, but Kobe is damned if he does or damned if he dont. If he passes up shots or doesn't shoot the ball, the media and everyone will swear that something has to be wrong with him. And if he does shoot the ball 25-30 times in a game no matter if its a win or a loss, the media and everyone goes with "he ball hogs and is shooting to much" company line.

Complete slap in the face of Kobe Bryant. I want someone to tell me when Jordan came back and played with the Wizards what was his overall rank in 2K games back then? If it was anything over an 85 then 2K needs to be build a better rating structure.

[Vni]

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At this point I think anyone on this site have done a better job in 2k rebuilding teams then Jim have done in the past 3 years. Some of these trades was just trades I made to see how I could take advantage of the AI. I have two GM modes with one being a more realistic one and one being this one I'm doing now.

I disagree. I think Jim buss negative effect on the lakers is vastly overblown. They are keeping their flexibility while riding Kobe's contract out. Nothing else to be done right now.

In 2k I think I would just sim until the summer of 2016. That's where things get exciting.

[thaone08]

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I disagree. I think Jim buss negative effect on the lakers is vastly overblown. They are keeping their flexibility while riding Kobe's contract out. Nothing else to be done right now.

In 2k I think I would just sim until the summer of 2016. That's where things get exciting.

See to me there two parts in rebuilding teams which are rosters and coaching staff. When I said that I was talking in the coaching aspect of the team building part. As a Lakers fan I'll say he done pretty good for this season and off-season even though he didn't get a big free agent. But from 2012 to 2014 not going lie I was disappointed in him but never hated him like most fans do.

To be honest with you when he gave himself 3 years to get the team back contending again or he'll quit, made me respect him honestly

[Vni]

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Why were you disapointed ? They had Paul and Howard in their net... Then they got Nash. Yeah it didn't work but they took a shot.

Summer of 2016 is judgment day for the Buss's. Right now I don't see much reasons to complain. Oh yeah I see one actually... They are terrible at hiring coaches. That's for sure.

[thaone08]

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Why were you disapointed ? They had Paul and Howard in their net... Then they got Nash. Yeah it didn't work but they took a shot.

Summer of 2016 is judgment day for the Buss's. Right now I don't see much reasons to complain. Oh yeah I see one actually... They are terrible at hiring coaches. That's for sure.

Cause of the coaching hires. I felt like there was better choices then Mike D'Antoni and Byron Scott. I think only reason he hired Scott is because he knows Scott is not going to get backlash like D'Antoni did and the fact Kobe not going complain about the coaching. Then with Mike D'Antoni it's like he hired him for Nash instead of thinking about Kobe and Dwight.

The Chris Paul and Dwight situation is one of the reasons why I trust him to build a legit roster. I mean he did draft Andrew Bynum as well and have a good taste in finding talent. It's just coaching wise he still learning which I know but still could of done better

[Lord Bonium]

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One other note, I just downloaded the roster update for 2K and I am extremely insulted that Kobe Bryant has been dropped to an overall rating of 85? Are you kidding me? I'm sorry, but no way is Carmelo an overall 89 and you drop Kobe down from an 89 to an 85. If this is 2K trying to motivate Kobe let me just say 4 letters...E.S.P.N....they got on the Kobe ***** wagon before the season started and whats he done so far....3rd in the league in scoring and was actually leading the league in scoring for what, 2-3 weeks of the season this year? Ok, yeah his shooting is under par, I'm not disputing that, but Kobe is damned if he does or damned if he dont. If he passes up shots or doesn't shoot the ball, the media and everyone will swear that something has to be wrong with him. And if he does shoot the ball 25-30 times in a game no matter if its a win or a loss, the media and everyone goes with "he ball hogs and is shooting to much" company line.

If anything his rating's still too high. His shooting's not just under par, it's utterly atrocious. Not to mention his defense is non-existent but then again it's been that way for years. Other has-been's like carter, pierce, maybe even ray allen would average around 25ppg as well in the same role with the same amount of shots.

Making a couple horrible shots on horrendous percentages without doing a whole lot else does not warrant an 85 rating, let alone 89... but of course the 2k office is full of kobe stans, that's nothing new.

[Eaglerock562]

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Non-existant? May I remind you that this is the same guy that a week ago in Indiana, with his team down by 30 points in the fourth quarter, went head first charging into the scorers table to save a loose ball? At 36 years old and that is non-existant? The other players on that team other then Nick Young presently will stand on the court and become a fan of the game when they hand Kobe the ball. If they are going to watch the game buy a ticket like everyone else. Cut, screen away, back cut, do something so Kobe will get you the ball otherwise I'm sorry, and I know I'm in the majority here, I'd rather have Kobe shoot with 3 guys covering him over those other guys shooting an open shot or with 1 defender on them cause I'll take the odds of Kobe making his shot over them anyday of the week. It's no secret that at 36 years old Kobe can't literally carry an entire team through 82 games and then a 4 playoff rounds, it would be almost certainly riding him into the ground, but then again Michael Jordan couldn't lead a team through an entire 82 games and 4 playoff rounds by himself either.

As far as Jim Buss goes, lets not forget, Jeannie Buss is the head of that franchise...all the Buss kids have an equal percentage of the team, but their job description and duties say that she is the one that makes the final decisions. She empowered her brother Jim Buss to the position that he is currently in and she made it clear over the summer that Jim answers to her and that she's given him, her own brother 2-3 years to get that team back to where it belongs or he's out on his butt.

And your right, management did try this offseason. They got to talk to LeBron's agent, then had a face to face with Carmelo where they did offer him 4 years/$96 million, and they did offer Pau Gasol 3 different contracts, one of them included a no trade clause. They even made a call to Boston and actually offered the Celtics Steve Nash and picks for Rondo, I mean you have to think that Danny Ainge was on the other end of that phone (and it was on speaker no doubt) laughing himself silly while trying to be professional cause I know I would've been laughing at that offer.

But lets not all forget, this started because of two men...David Stern and Dan Gilbert. Gilbert whined and complained to Stern about the Lakers getting superstar after superstar in trades, and that it isn't fair to the rest of the league. Yet LeBron, Wade and Bosh could colaborate before they were free agents and decide to team up. LeBron can jump ship yet again (as if that was suprising) and go back to Cleveland and team up with Irving and then Love gets traded there (hey Gilbert, I didn't see you sending out any letters when your team is the one taking superstar after superstar) but hey what am I worried about, your Cleveland. Kevin Love didn't come there on his own, he was traded, he had no choice but to show up or be in breach of contract. But Chris Paul going to the Lakers, that trade was NO GOOD, the worst trade of all time that it had to be vetoed by David Stern (who ethically shouldn't have been allowed to make that decision seeing as the Hornets at the time were owned by the league itself, that would be a conflict of interest). So then Paul gets dealt to the Clippers in a trade that involved what, 4-5 players and picks?

The Lakers are going to wind up in 2 years with 2 superstars and very certain Kobe will be resigning and this time he'll give the Lakers the hometown discount as they took care of him with this current deal.

Coaching wise, Byron Scott was the ONLY guy for this job. They had to bring someone in that the fans and organization would get behind who was not named Phil Jackson. Popovich, Rivers and maybe Jerry Sloan would've been the only other names I would've considered over Scott. Mike D'Antoni not only was the worst possible coaching choice that was made, but I'm pretty sure he don't coach in the NBA ever again.