This Sums up the Teammate AI Issues (Clip Inside)

[Crookid]

No, it was not set to zone. This is on man to man defense.

No, this wasn't a fast break. This was an inbound after I made a layup.

No, this is not intentional by developers to make the game purposely unfair on HOF.

There is something fundamentally wrong with teammates this year on both defensive positioning, decision, offense positioning and decisions.

https://youtu.be/NOf5Dg72_WA

As you can see, Anderson is completely ignoring his man and is on the complete opposite side of the floor. Then stands still like he has nothing to do giving the CPU points when they need them. This is CONSISTENTLY happening. Pass the ball immediately on inbound to a wide open man, shot goes in. Or pass to a cutting big that is being defended by the arch (for what reason, no one knows). This is far more immersive breaking than anything else.

Please help issues like this come to the surface instead of acting like the game is perfect. This is what? The 5th embarrassing example I've shown?

[Staffan54]

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But the socks looks good...

[Crookid]

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Here is another example:

https://youtu.be/fm3d99tsa9I

Evans starts collapsing as soon as Gasol starts to set a screen. Why? He should be ON HIS MAN unless Rose get's around someone. WHY is he giving Rose a bailout? The CPU almost never makes these kinds of decisions. What is the back end calculation that is making my NBA teammates make intramural mistakes?

The game is currently unplayable in this form. Anyone who thinks this is okay does not know the game of basketball. Period.

[Richardcg]

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This is why I could never play the MC mode. Your AI teammates always are doing something they shouldn't be, not taking shots when they have an easy layup/dunk. I don't see why your teammates can't react like the cpu AI

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[Trackball]

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Uh, on that first clip, why were you not guarding YOUR MAN?

When you leave a guy open like that, expect the opponent to pounce.

"Unplayable" my eye. This was YOUR fault.

As for that second clip: Guess what? In real life, professional players, who get paid millions of dollars a year to play a children's game with a nine-inch ball for the amusement of others, sometimes do stupid things.

The developers said there would be defensive breakdowns.

That is not a bug. That is realism.

[jots]

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Uh, on that first clip, why were you not guarding YOUR MAN?

When you leave a guy open like that, expect the opponent to pounce.

"Unplayable" my eye. This was YOUR fault.

But... he was guarding "his" man. He was guarding the ball handler.

As for the second clip, I could be fine with the notion that defensive

breakdowns happen in real life too, and this would be realistic. In NBA 2k16

it seems to happen far too frequently though.

[The 24th Letter]

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Let's experiment, Can we record maybe one half of raw game play?

This way we can get the total picture. Pick the same two teams, the same difficulty. I will do one too.

I just want to see how often this takes place over the course of a game real time and why., how big of an effect it has, play styles etc.

This isn't me disagreeing or anything....I've seen this too like others....frequency/impact varies between members though.

Let's cut down on bickering and get some solutions! Anyone game?


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[mrchiggs]

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Every game in MC, I have a play, after a made basket (from my team) where we get back on defense and for some reason my center ends up out of bounds behind thier basket. They come down and thier center PF automatically gets an uncontested dunk. At least once every game.

[KyotoCarl]

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"Fundamentally wrong" is a big statement, and an exaggeration. What happens in this clip doesn't happen often. It's more of a bug than something that's fundamentally wrong.

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[Crookid]

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Uh, on that first clip, why were you not guarding YOUR MAN?

When you leave a guy open like that, expect the opponent to pounce.

"Unplayable" my eye. This was YOUR fault.

As for that second clip: Guess what? In real life, professional players, who get paid millions of dollars a year to play a children's game with a nine-inch ball for the amusement of others, sometimes do stupid things.

The developers said there would be defensive breakdowns.

That is not a bug. That is realism.

Omg just stop. Do you know how ridiculous you sound. You literally sound like you've never played or watched a game of basketball in your life. This happens WAY TOO OFTEN.

SHOW ME ONE NBA game where a defender is ignoring his man on a damn inbound? Defensive breakdown? What? This is the AI getting clearly stuck. Just like when your big gets stuck behind the backboard watching the CPU big get a pass into a layup then your big jumps after the shot.

Or what about the CPU on both ends playing a zone every break while your teammates force themselves into layups no matter how many people are in the paint instead of slowing it down based on how fast the defense gets back? THIS IS EVERY FAST BREAK AND EVERY INBOUND.

And what the hell are you talking about me not playing my man? I am a PG and that is my man. I just hit a layup and was pressuring the ball handler on the inbound seen VERY OFTEN if you've ever watched an NBA game.


Jesus, the bball ignorance is almost as frustrating as ignoring FACTS shown to you as plain as video proof. What more do you fanboys want. You do the game and everyone a disservice acting like this is NOT A PROBLEM. And this happened on ALL DIFFICULTIES.

[Crookid]

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"Fundamentally wrong" is a big statement, and an exaggeration. What happens in this clip doesn't happen often. It's more of a bug than something that's fundamentally wrong.

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Doesn't happen often? You can't be serious. Are we playing the same game?

I can recreate these issues multiple sets in a row and I will do so tonight. Perhaps this will make you all stop with this nonsense.

It's so frustrating because how you all claim to know the game and let stuff like this fly is beyond me.

[apollooff320]

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Doesn't happen often? You can't be serious. Are we playing the same game?

I can recreate these issues multiple sets in a row and I will do so tonight. Perhaps this will make you all stop with this nonsense.

It's so frustrating because how you all claim to know the game and let stuff like this fly is beyond me.

dude chill...some ppl are playing on rookie and pro and playing with the best teams so they are less likely to see it. All the problems start happening on All Star and above.

[Scofield]

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Teammate AI seems to be a sore spot for a lot of folks who play this mode. I can't speak to it because I don't but that footage looks pretty rough.

[The 24th Letter]

This Sums up the Teammate AI Issues (Clip Inside)

Offer is still out there......assuming shedding light on the issue is the actual goal....


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[SirGaryColeman]

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That's pretty bad.

I do wish they'd give us the option to control all of the players on the team in MyCareer. It would help solve teammate problems a little bit more.