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Old 10-14-2015, 06:47 PM   #25
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Re: Small Forwards are imbalanced. SG,SF, and PFs need Boosts.

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Honestly, I've mentioned this another thread I believe in the MAX CAP Attributes thread stating that we need more playing styles. You can't define a player with just inside, outside, and balanced. How about a scoring playstyle or a defensive specialist like we had in previous 2ks? Just a couple examples where I think 2k will expand that to make more unique players. Shawn Marion was the most versatile defender that I can think of where he can guard 1-4 and rarely a 5. He could stay laterally in front of quick guards, can defend wing positions and due to his length and wing span can guard bigger forwards and rarely a Center. Why can't we create a player like that? Defensive specialist comes to mind. Scoring style should be exactly what it means scoring to an extent. I don't expect 90+ rating in every offensive ability, but maybe balance it more for wing positions so they can be a little more effective than just a shooter or an just inside scorer. They'll be exposed on defense due to below average defense unless they boost and become average, but can be a scoring machine. I think PG's are fine tuned perfectly, but wing positions athletically and ball handling can use a little more tweaking. And any other playing styles ppl can think of would be good additions.

Wait what's stopping you from doing that ? Shawn Marion is very possible. You can take a SF make him 6'7 or 6'6. You get 100 upgrades . 18 into defense into defense to get lockdown perimeter and post lockdown . Do about 15 into rebounding . Do about 8 or so into outside scoring .maybe 8 into playmaking . 14 into athlete .12 into inside scoring. That's 75 upgrades ! You sill got 25 to finish your Shawn Marion. I recommend either inside ( post Phoenix ,) or balanced (for Phoenix Marion)

He'll still be athletic , can guard most positions , and rebound .
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:05 PM   #26
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Re: Small Forwards are imbalanced. SG,SF, and PFs need Boosts.

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The ball control cap at SG irritates the hell out of me, it's as if no one but PGs can dribble and hold on to the ball for more than 3 seconds. And when you tie in how high steals can go as opposed to ball control, it seems rather one-sided.
Good thing 2K added someone who supposedly knew the intricacies of their rating system and scales.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:08 PM   #27
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Wait what's stopping you from doing that ? Shawn Marion is very possible. You can take a SF make him 6'7 or 6'6. You get 100 upgrades . 18 into defense into defense to get lockdown perimeter and post lockdown . Do about 15 into rebounding . Do about 8 or so into outside scoring .maybe 8 into playmaking . 14 into athlete .12 into inside scoring. That's 75 upgrades ! You sill got 25 to finish your Shawn Marion. I recommend either inside ( post Phoenix ,) or balanced (for Phoenix Marion)

He'll still be athletic , can guard most positions , and rebound .
Yes, but how slow are you going to be if you're taking the 2k16 attribute caps? You can't be an elite defender with having less than 80 speed. In this game you will be far below that at SF position. Also, stealing rating goes down while blocking goes up. You should be elite in both stealing and blocking if you're a defensive specialist. Sure you'll be good at getting rebounds, but for reasons stated above that's not the only defensive thing. Athletically you're not agile like an elite defender either. So more like a poor man's version of Shawn Marion, but specialist to me means elite and not average-above average. Although your points and advice are helpful, the CAPS to athletic make it subpar.
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I guess .so . My PF can stick with even perimeter players at the park , pro am or mycareer with a speed of 63. Shawn Marion's (85 OVR. 04-05 suns ) speed in this game is an 80, steal a 77, and blocking a 65. Your speed can get close to that at 6'6 ,6'7. Especially with a boost . His agility is a 84 so that could be a problem but you can boost that too even at level 20

My PFs stealing is an 81 blocking in the 90s. With pick pocket and interceptor and eraser I get 3 steals and 2 blocks at least every pro am game . These numbers are even higher in mycareer
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Good thing 2K added someone who supposedly knew the intricacies of their rating system and scales.
I don't see what that has to do with anything.. lol
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Yeah, the caps are bad this year. This is just a bandaid. Next year, there needs to be another solution.

The problem was really just 7' SFs for me.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:48 PM   #31
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I don't even know what the beef is, most of the top SF's in 2K got their ballhandling in the 70s...

Paul George has 74 ball control
Kawhi Leonard 61 ball control
Gordon Hayward 72 ball control
Rudy Gay 78 ball control

If you watch most SF's play, they aren't dribbling the ball around. They are one cut and go, playing the PnR, spotting up, running transition and posting up.

Play real basketball and you will fair better. No legit SF's are in the NBA, pulling out ridiculous crossovers like Kyrie Irving and splashing it everywhere. They using their length and their bodies.

Learn how to play in the post. Learn how to protect the ball like a real SF does. Stop trying to play 2K like it was last year.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:49 PM   #32
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Re: Small Forwards are imbalanced. SG,SF, and PFs need Boosts.

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PGs and Centers are the only respectable positions unless you're a 5'10 SG
I got a SF on my squad that has no problems. He dominates games.
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