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Old 12-25-2015, 02:07 PM   #41
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you must not understand how the basketball hof works lol...
Wow, u really think Barbosa is a HOFer and u are questioning that I don't know how the HOF works. Lol
Best joke I have heard all year.
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Old 12-25-2015, 08:18 PM   #42
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Knew it.

IMO only Draymond and maybe Klay stands a chance of being in the HoF. But I highly doubt it.

Iggy no way in hell is a HoF.

Lol. GSW is actually not really a stacked team. Not like Spurs where probably Tony Parker, Manu and Timmy will be HoFers.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../hof_prob.html

Yeah... GSW is a stacked team, right. Like Spurs isn't super stacked. Or Cavs. Or OKC. Compared to those 3 GSW is just an average team, lol.
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Old 12-25-2015, 08:42 PM   #43
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you must not understand how the basketball hof works lol...
Yes it's a basketball hall of fame and not an NBA one but what the heck has Barbosa EVER done outside of the NBA worthy of being in the hall of fame?

As far as Iggy goes he's a key part of our national team and does have a gold medal but doubt it will be enough to get in to the hall of fame.

Guys like Pau Gasol have a long and impressive Euro track record along with being good NBA players will make it in to the hall of fame for sure. Barbosa does not fall in to this category.. like.. at all.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../hof_prob.html
Hall of fame probability list barbosa (surprised he's even on the list tbh) and Iggy under the "ya not gonna happen" category lol.
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Old 12-25-2015, 08:49 PM   #44
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barbosa will also be a hall of famer
This could be one of the craziest things I've ever read, if you are actually serious. You clearly know nothing about the HOF, maybe if he was some type of international legend, considering he's Brazilian. Perhaps you don't realize who the HOF is for, I'll use current players for example; LeBron, Durant, Kobe, Curry, Pierce, Garnett, etc. Not for role players that 11 PTS per game.

Here's a list of a few players that compare to Barbosa-

Brevin Knight
John Barry
Raja Bell
Larry Hughes

-Reference "Similarity Scores"- http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barbole01.html
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:14 AM   #45
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I don't think many players from GSW would end up in hall of fame, first of all GSW is on the begining of their rise as the team and being hall of famer means being great for the most part of career. When one team is considered a dynasty then we talk about potential hall of famers, remember early 2000's Lakers ? From that particular team sure hall of famers are Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal and maybe Derek Fisher, guys like Lamar Odom won't see basketball hall of fame.
Hall of fame considers individual accolades as well as team accolades but being impressive player individually ranks more so guys like Allen Iverson are going to be HoF'ers, not every role player on championship team is going to be HoF, NEVER !!!
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Kawhi Leonard could be an MVP on any other team, but The Spurs share the ball so much, he won't lead the league in any popular stats.

Same thing happened to Duncan, he's better than Kobe, but nobody says this or notices because his stats aren't as high.

Meanwhile, 2k started Kobe with like an 85 rating? That's ridiculous, got some fanboys choosing the stats.
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Kawhi Leonard could be an MVP on any other team, but The Spurs share the ball so much, he won't lead the league in any popular stats.

Same thing happened to Duncan, he's better than Kobe, but nobody says this or notices because his stats aren't as high.

Meanwhile, 2k started Kobe with like an 85 rating? That's ridiculous, got some fanboys choosing the stats.




Theres no doubt that Kawhi would be a elite player on any team, so I don't think anyone who has said he has the benefit of the good players he plays with along with 1 of the greatest coaches of all time is knocking him any, or they shouldn't be if that's the case.
But it always helps when you have a solid team to play with, and why he is able to be as efficient as he is, and why the team has 1 of the best records in the league. Swap PG13 for Kawhi and they both still be great players, but PG would be more efficient to a degree than he is with the Pacers, while Kawhi would be a little less efficient. Kawhu would still be the best defensive player in the league no matter what team he plays on though.
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