Offball needs to actually have a consequence

[2_headedmonster]

Quote: Originally Posted by Philbin

Or you can make more excuses for playing off ball instead of manning up. Press a when the shot goes up and then battle for a board. Backdoor cuts are all but a moot point with those settings..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Im not looking to get any behavior excused lmao. I paid 65 bucks for my game and I can play it however I choose. I dont subscribe to the 'be everyone, do everything' macho mentality and all the pleading in the world to 'man up' wont change that.

I play safety on Madden and I play center on 2k and I enjoy it
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[raidertiger]

Only fools think that on-ball D is the only way to play. This ain't ISO ball era, screens and ball movement are a huge part of the game, and players who can thrive off-ball are commodities in the NBA.

[A6_Foul_Out]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2_headedmonster

Im not looking to get any behavior excused lmao. I paid 65 bucks for my game and I can play it however I choose. I dont subscribe to the 'be everyone, do everything' macho mentality and all the pleading in the world to 'man up' wont change that. I play safety on Madden and I play center on 2k and I enjoy it ...

You still can't understand why safety in madden is different than center in 2k?

Ever hear of that town pond where everybody used to fish?

The town put out a law that said that each house could only catch 1 fish per day.

Well, you see, nobody enforced that law. And people realized that you could catch more fish and have more food for your family.

What ends up happening? The pond runs out of fish and everybody is sad.

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Here, nobody is stopping [you] players from playing in such a fashion that is annoying, skill-less and completely detrimental to the experience.

What's should happen is that playing off-ball should not be something that a skilled player chooses to do.

What ends up happening is that you simply annoy and alienate people who have to play against it.

The much better solution, is to make players who do this lose. This should not be a winning tactic.

[A6_Foul_Out]

Quote: Originally Posted by raidertiger

Only fools think that on-ball D is the only way to play. This ain't ISO ball era, screens and ball movement are a huge part of the game, and players who can thrive off-ball are commodities in the NBA.

There's a difference between hiding completely by never guarding the ball. And making the adjustments needed by switching players.

This is referring to the former.

[Philbin]

Quote: Originally Posted by A6_Foul_Out

There's a difference between hiding completely by never guarding the ball. And making the adjustments needed by switching players. This is referring to the former.

Exactly. Off ball at times is necessary. The fast break cheeser is pretty common this year. So what I do RIGHT AWAY press right button to bring up the icons and then left bumper to do furthest person back and sprint back and beat any sort of layup or dunk. Once it's in a half court set I go on ball.


Also on Xbox it doesn't show who is being controlled on defense.



And no off ball (the kind where it's THE WHOLE GAME) does not take any skill this year. Let's stop alluding to that. If it was harder how come every time you beat someone on two to three plays where they moved their feet wrong they'll go RIGHT to all off ball and just get beat in the boring general offline superstar sim way.



Maybe just learn to shuffle your feet better in game and cut off angles instead of trying to justify a bad game mechanic?


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[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by A6_Foul_Out

You still can't understand why safety in madden is different than center in 2k? Ever hear of that town pond where everybody used to fish? The town put out a law that said that each house could only catch 1 fish per day. Well, you see, nobody enforced that law. And people realized that you could catch more fish and have more food for your family. What ends up happening? The pond runs out of fish and everybody is sad. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here, nobody is stopping [you] players from playing in such a fashion that is annoying, skill-less and completely detrimental to the experience. What's should happen is that playing off-ball should not be something that a skilled player chooses to do. What ends up happening is that you simply annoy and alienate people who have to play against it. The much better solution, is to make players who do this lose. This should not be a winning tactic.

Did everyone here miss the bold above?

[2_headedmonster]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

Did everyone here miss the bold above?

thats a TERRIBLE analogy lmmfao. Im not exhausting a finite resource by playing as the center on NBA 2k16

[downsouth]

I like how its sim someone to iso dribble for 20 secs until you lose a defender and never run plays but not sim to control all your players on defense. Only being an occasional player in the 5 on 5 modes it seems like whining to me.

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