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  • RyanJS08
    Pro
    • Oct 2012
    • 683

    #1

    Curry unfair in 2k17?

    Not sure if this has been discussed in another thread but I came across this article this morning, seems to be another first impression on the game. But it specifically is talking about Steph Curry and sounds like he might be "unstoppable". Article doesn't go into too much detail but I think it's a good review from another viewpoint. What do you guys think?

    A hands-on preview of the upcoming game proved that 2K is about to have another hit.
  • scooterperpetual
    Pro
    • Aug 2015
    • 812

    #2
    Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

    To be honest if you stick to Curry after the half court line then he shouldn't be unfair, he should be realistic. Now if he is hitting threes with a hand in his face fading away 30 feet out... then we have something to talk about.
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    • LeBronistheKing
      MVP
      • Aug 2010
      • 1042

      #3
      Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

      I feel like there are a couple things happening here. One, 2k is a Bay Area based company and clearly their Warrior bias is real. This over rating began last year in 2k16 with the "Break the game" Under Armor thing and it looks like it's not only continued but been ramped up. Secondly while yes Curry can pull up from near half court with a higher success rate than most, what concerns me is the description of him being faster than everyone else on the court. This isn't Russell Westbrook or even LeBron James, Curry shouldn't be faster than everyone else on the court and shouldn't have better handles than everyone. This article is quite bit worrisome.

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      • Krodis
        Rookie
        • Jul 2008
        • 494

        #4
        Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

        Curry probably felt pretty unfair to most of the teams trying to guard him last year.

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        • LeBronistheKing
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 1042

          #5
          Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

          He's not faster than everyone on the court. That's a concern if he is.

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          • MFDOOMBOT
            The Illest Villain
            • Mar 2006
            • 259

            #6
            Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

            I just really hope you can see who your opponent picks on PlayOnline Now. I don't want to play the Warriors 9 out of 10 games.
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            • El_Poopador
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 2638

              #7
              Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

              This article worries me a lot. For starters, he says after winning the jump ball, the first shot of the game was Curry pulling up from 40ft. That is not at all realistic. He generally only shoots those shots when he's in a rhythm or to try and stop a run. And this makes it sound like he will be able to consistently drain 30+ footers throughout the game. In real life, he averaged less than one attempt from >28ft per game.

              in this yearโ€™s game, do not switch pick-and-rolls involving the Chef. Your big man cannot guard him. I repeat: cannot.
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              Switching is what stopped Curry in the WCF and the Finals. Yes, most big men will have trouble, but some should be able to guard him.

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              • VinsanityLives
                Banned
                • Sep 2015
                • 668

                #8
                Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

                I actually liked this article more than what else I've read so far. The curry hype drama was annoying, but pointing out the dribbling sounding responsive effective yet challenging, and the differences between stars was more clear was good to hear. Sounds like it may be a bit more explosive and skill levels are more present, which I was hoping for. Curry has insane handles in real life, we should be able to use them in a damn video game. The layup not a given sounds weird, but it is more realistic if they did it right. If you are trying to put yourself in the game more, timing the layup is a good addition if done right. I can see myself having fun with this too.. Not gonna lie I hope you can botch a wide open fast break layup, to get some good laughs. Also may fix those stupid automatic turn around open missed layups your bigs can get triggered into where they fling it off the backboard, we should be able to control this now. Awesome imo. I like that the computer pulls up from 40 ft like that, even though I don't play computer, and it was a bit scripted in 16 after 'break the game'.

                That said, the tester sounds like a noob and didn't say much else to be excited for other than zomg Curry Sept 20th for an entire first impression

                Most of the time 2k has made me fall in love was when I wasn't expecting much though. 2k10 was abysmal and I kind of forgot about 2k.. Then I played 11 and was blown away.. that carried over and I hung on through 2k12 and ehh in 13.. 14 dropped was cool cuz the next gen graphics were nuts.. 15 pretty bad after I expected a lot. Especially after patches. 16 like the innovation, but same story.. Expected a lot. 17 I'm expecting not much... And this is usually when they strike.

                It all comes down to how much 2k has Its head up it's *** honestly. 15/16 they had it so far up it was ridiculous.. They thought they were curing diseases with these releases and getting greedy with VC and 2ktv auto play nonsense. Remember 15 phone app where you'd host cookout parties? Wtf. That Ronnie guy thinks he's a celebrity through this too..

                Anyway. That friction trailer seemed to be more chilled and honest. So my prediction is either they really did little and it'll be a rehash due to complacency..or they surprise me/us like they have in past acting like this. I just don't see that obnoxious hype like I use to in summers.

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                • Vni
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 14869

                  #9
                  Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

                  It's not really the shooting but it's the way he can bulldoze his way through players, it's pretty disgusting.

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                  • jayb_270
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 257

                    #10
                    Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

                    Just give me a filter for online play now so I won't have to deal with this crap. Just match all the Warriors players up with each other and they can have 3 point contest while I play real basketball with other people

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                    • silverskier
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 305

                      #11
                      Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

                      I love to hear this about curry. The fact that it will be a challengento defend him is what makes fun the game


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                      • Sundown
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 3274

                        #12
                        Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

                        Originally posted by LeBronistheKing
                        I feel like there are a couple things happening here. One, 2k is a Bay Area based company and clearly their Warrior bias is real. This over rating began last year in 2k16 with the "Break the game" Under Armor thing and it looks like it's not only continued but been ramped up. Secondly while yes Curry can pull up from near half court with a higher success rate than most, what concerns me is the description of him being faster than everyone else on the court. This isn't Russell Westbrook or even LeBron James, Curry shouldn't be faster than everyone else on the court and shouldn't have better handles than everyone. This article is quite bit worrisome.
                        While I can agree that Curry shouldn't be faster than a Westbrook, for a Bay Area company, 2K has actually shown notable lack of attention towards Curry until last season. His signature shot was terrible until 2k16, his cyberface wasn't the greatest until he made the cover athlete (but sharing that honor with 2 other players while a Paul George enjoys the sole spotlight), and he didn't get that recognition or a mo-cap session until after he won an MVP and a championship.

                        Whether that was due to Curry's unavailability or 2K's lack of prioritization or both, it was very notable for a star who lives so close to the studio.

                        Curry was (justifiably) hyped last year because the sports world was hyped about him. And it took much more for him to get focus in the game than the many players who received more attention while accomplishing less. And already, the Friction trailer barely features the back-to-back MVP while highlighting Thompson and Green.

                        One of the other reviews suggested that Curry plays much more like he's able to while defenders are also given (and forced to use) realistic tools to try to stop him. Curry is an edge case, and it's great to see 2K handle that on both sides of the court for the good of the overall simulation. Hopefully it trickles down and helps to simulate the play of other players who are capable of having similar (but much, much less consistent and irregular) spurts like Lillard and even Irving.
                        Last edited by Sundown; 08-24-2016, 03:10 PM.

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                        • Wolf Ticket
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 299

                          #13
                          Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?



                          I'm not shook, if he's op it will give me great satisfaction to shut him down.

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                          • KGDunks
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 530

                            #14
                            Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

                            Originally posted by LeBronistheKing
                            I feel like there are a couple things happening here. One, 2k is a Bay Area based company and clearly their Warrior bias is real. This over rating began last year in 2k16 with the "Break the game" Under Armor thing and it looks like it's not only continued but been ramped up. Secondly while yes Curry can pull up from near half court with a higher success rate than most, what concerns me is the description of him being faster than everyone else on the court. This isn't Russell Westbrook or even LeBron James, Curry shouldn't be faster than everyone else on the court and shouldn't have better handles than everyone. This article is quite bit worrisome.
                            The dude is the second best player in the game, and has one of the more unique skillsets we've seen from a player. He absolutely deserved his rating. The main problem was against the CPU in my experience. The CPU doesn't aggressively look for shots like threes like they should. Curry would constantly dribble around with plenty of space to shoot threes, but he wouldn't even recognise this.

                            Online I found him pretty unstoppable at times and flat out awful at others where 2K still doesn't understand that he can shoot threes over anyone, and almost never fades away on three pointers. He would be cold because you'd shoot a few threes with him that had the defender providing a bit of a challenge and he'd fadeaway.

                            The other problem with him is that 2K thinks he shoots those crazy floaters everytime he goes to the basket, instead of them being part of a varied layup package. It's frustrating to no end when you play an opponent who can time blocks and swat any of those floaters Curry automatically shoots.

                            Curry and Irving are probably the two best dribblers in the game, and I feel like Curry is the best at using his dribble effectively and quickly to exploit the defence. As for speed, he isn't Westbrook lightning fast but he is certainly one of the faster players in the league with the ball in hand.

                            Originally posted by El_Poopador
                            This article worries me a lot. For starters, he says after winning the jump ball, the first shot of the game was Curry pulling up from 40ft. That is not at all realistic. He generally only shoots those shots when he's in a rhythm or to try and stop a run. And this makes it sound like he will be able to consistently drain 30+ footers throughout the game. In real life, he averaged less than one attempt from >28ft per game.



                            Switching is what stopped Curry in the WCF and the Finals. Yes, most big men will have trouble, but some should be able to guard him.
                            I'd wait and see. It's a five minute demo and this is the second time I've heard about Curry pulling up from there in a media outlet's hands-on preview, so they might have adjusted some things to show that off.

                            Curry abused absolutely everyone in switches in the regular season. His knee strain clearly bothered him in the playoffs. All of a sudden he couldn't blow past guys like Steven Adams who he had no trouble with in the regular season. Yes, Tristan Thompson did a good job in the finals, but this was a guy torching Kawhi Leonard on switches in the regular season.

                            Originally posted by Vni
                            It's not really the shooting but it's the way he can bulldoze his way through players, it's pretty disgusting.
                            Plays like that in real life though. Maybe not literally barging to the rim, but he goes up strong at the rim and takes a lot of contact.

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                            • Damjan10
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 107

                              #15
                              Re: Curry unfair in 2k17?

                              I just want him to shoot more often. In 2K16 it drove me crazy how many times he would drive to the basket and use that cheesy super high arc lay-up animation that always goes in and is unblockable. Whenever I played against the Warriors it seemed as though he would only attempt his first three in the third period.

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