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Old 09-29-2016, 01:06 PM   #1
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Video Clips of Poor Off Ball CPU Defending

The off ball cpu AI defending is one of the few issues I see with 2K17. I like the game alot, and it has tons of basketball strategy in it. But, they have to do a better job with the Cpu off ball defenders. This video is not about rotations or pnr defense. Let me know what you think?

This is all 1 game vs the HOF Cpu Cavs.



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Old 09-29-2016, 01:22 PM   #2
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Nice video. This and the PNR defensive rotations (and constant double teaming) are my biggest issues with 2K17. Hopefully this is all addressed in the next big patch.
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Old 09-29-2016, 01:49 PM   #3
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A recurring issue with 2K is that AI defensive movement is so sluggish. Mutiple times in your video the AI was in good position and then just forgets that its job is to protect the rim. Also big man pick roll recovery and transition D need major improvement. This game doesnt replicate how closely guarded guys in the paint are. Thats why it is so easy to spam the ball inside. No one should ever just magically spring free under the rim. Its no where near realistic.

On the inbound cheese the AI defenders need to play the cut to the basket first and then go forward with its next responsibility.

And another thing is that the inside play would look more realistic if the AI used bounce passes. Anyone that has ever played basketball on a competitive level knows that chest passes into the paint are typically a no go. But that leads to another problem of that you dont have pass around anyone in 2k including your on ball opponent. There are no pass angles and trajectories. You just click the pass button and you either succeed or fail. Theres no thing of the pass being slightly off the mark allowing the defense to recover. If better passing was incorporated the game would take another big step towards complete sim
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A recurring issue with 2K is that AI defensive movement is so sluggish. Mutiple times in your video the AI was in good position and then just forgets that its job is to protect the rim. Also big man pick roll recovery and transition D need major improvement. This game doesnt replicate how closely guarded guys in the paint are. Thats why it is so easy to spam the ball inside. No one should ever just magically spring free under the rim. Its no where near realistic.

On the inbound cheese the AI defenders need to play the cut to the basket first and then go forward with its next responsibility.

And another thing is that the inside play would look more realistic if the AI used bounce passes. Anyone that has ever played basketball on a competitive level knows that chest passes into the paint are typically a no go. But that leads to another problem of that you dont have pass around anyone in 2k including your on ball opponent. There are no pass angles and trajectories. You just click the pass button and you either succeed or fail. Theres no thing of the pass being slightly off the mark allowing the defense to recover. If better passing was incorporated the game would take another big step towards complete sim
100 with passing angles. That is what i thought the pass iq and pass vision ratings were for.
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I honestly have no idea what those ratings do because it seems as if every AI guard can pretty much make any pass
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I lost it when TT grabbed the board and quickly threw a bullet to JR, who was BEHIND HIM, while still in mid air and the ball going thru Milsap's neck.

Yeah, hopefully this is something that can be addressed sooner rather than later. I've noticed it happening more often this year than last year and while usually, I'm able to tune them out every now and then(especially since it wasn't happening as frequent)but when it pops up more, yeah....that's hard to ignore and not get frustrated by.
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Didn't watch, I came for the instrumental and was not disappointed...

Nah, good stuff dude.
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Didn't watch, I came for the instrumental and was not disappointed...

Nah, good stuff dude.
Haha. "Breaking bad habits"
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