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Old 10-06-2016, 12:57 PM   #9
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guys..its evan turner
Is Turner a talented enough shooter to be Turk, though? I'd argue no.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:24 PM   #10
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Is Turner a talented enough shooter to be Turk, though? I'd argue no.
true.

using bball ref the only players with similar per 36 #'s as turk in the past 3 seasons are

lebron, durant, harden, griffin, curry, paul george, parsons, and kevin love

paul pierce did it in 2012..and he actually might be the closest thing to turkoglu right now even though hes ancient
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:32 PM   #11
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This would be my choice. He's better on the glass, and might not be quite the shooter that Hedo was, but his game mirrors Turkoglu the most. His learning curve shouldn't be as long as Turkoglu's was either. He's more prepared to make an immediate impact.
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Old 10-06-2016, 09:41 PM   #12
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I like Parsons as a conparison. Very talented and similar player. A bit more athletic but less consistent. I think you kinda nailed it
but not sure if parsons actually bring up the ball and start the offense, i don't watch him play much, anyone knows?
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Re: Today's Hedo Turkoglu?

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Old 10-07-2016, 12:21 AM   #14
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Prime Hedo Turkoglu (Age 28, 2008 season)
17.8 PER (career high)
58 TS% on 25 USG%
3 ORB% and 14 DRB%
23 AST%
1.3 STL% and 0.6 BLK%

Shooting
Rim: 59%
Close: 38%
Mid: 41%
3pt: 40%
FT: 83%

What was notable about Turkoglu was that he lead the team in USG% even though he was nowhere close to being your typical star.

Orlando's Usage
24% D.Howard
21% R.Lewis
25% H.Turkoglu
14% K.Bogans
19% J.Nelson

I would look at point forwards (which require a non-dominant PG) who play with a star-caliber big they are sharing touches with.

Someone mentioned Paul Pierce and his older version with the big three is a good example

Old Pierce (Age 31, 2009 season)
17.7 PER
58 TS% on 25 USG% (USG lead team)
2 ORB% and 15 DRB%
16 AST%
1.4 STL% and 0.7 BLK%

Shooting
Rim: 55%
Close: 45%
Mid: 42%
3pt: 38%
FT: 83%

BOS Usage
15% K.Perkins
23% K.Garnett
25% P.Pierce
21% R.Allen
19% R.Rondo

Pierce played with a star big and a non-scoring PG. He wasn't required to be a point-forward so much with Rondo (he had higher AST% in years that Rondo was hurt), but he operated as the primary ball-handler when Rondo hit the bench since Rondo's backup was Eddie House (10 AST%).

Pierce obviously had a much higher ceiling than Turkoglu ever did, but functionally this is the closest answer you'll get. Ironically enough, Pierce is taking the same exact route out of the NBA that Turkoglu did, playing stretch-four at an advanced age for the Clippers.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:37 AM   #15
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AFA "Today" goes it's likely Chandler Parsons, who had 16 AST% last season for Dallas (now with Memphis). But he isn't really a "point forward" since Mike Conley is a better playmaker than Jameer Nelson and Marc Gasol isn't just a black hole finisher like Dwight Howard. As far as talent/ability/circumstance that's probably the closest comparison at present.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:41 AM   #16
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Yeah, there's not really a "modern Hedo Turkoglu" right now. He was pretty unique. A tall forward who could shoot from 3 but also had a mid-range game (not a Paul Pierce level mid-range game, but it wasn't completely nonexistent like a lot of NBA players today), could dribble, had very good court vision and was a crafty passer. Good pick and roll player, too.

I guess Chandler Parsons would be the closest in terms of talent level but the playstyles aren't really that similar, IMO.
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