2k18 All-Time Teams Roster Review

[bigball12]

NBA 2K18 All-Time Team's Review

Atlanta Hawks: 6.5/10 (Some Really Deserving Guys Missing, But Overall Solid Job)
Notable Omissions:
Mookie Blaylock – (Most likely couldn't get his rights due to serving time in prison currently)
Moses Malone – (Unfortunately deceased, hasn't been in 2K since 16')
Josh Smith
Jason Terry - (No shame in him being on another All-Time Team, especially this one)

Why Are They Here? :
Kyle Korver (Teague gets a pass for serving 8 years with the club, but Korver surely could've been replaced)

Brooklyn/New Jersey Nets: 8.5/10 (No Complaints)
Notable Omissions:
Stephon Marbury (You got the rights.. why not use him on multiple teams?)
Rick Barry (Same reason as Marbury)
Otis Birdsong (Unsung superstar of the 80's, was in Live 16', was hoping he'd make it here)

Why Are They Here? :
Devin Harris

Boston Celtics: 10/10 (Nearly Perfect, But Can't Go Wrong With Any Of The Guys They Chose)
Notable Omissions:
Nate Archibald (WTF? Already In The Game, Should've Replaced Isaiah)
Jo Jo White
Dennis Johnson (Already In The Game, Should've Replaced Isaiah. Put Him On The Suns To Make Up For It)
KC Jones (Already In The Game, Should've Replaced Isaiah)
Danny Ainge (Already In The Game, Should've Replaced Isaiah)

Why Are They Here? :
Isaiah Thomas (Love Little Isaiah, But Not Quite Top 15 Celtic Territory)

Charlotte Hornets: 9/10 (Almost Perfect)
Notable Omissions:
Gerald Wallace (Clearly couldn't get an agreement unfortunately. He's a top 3 player in the teams history and would've been a nice addition.)
Jason Richardson (In his mere 96 games as a Bobcat, he averaged career highs in all three major categories.)
Emeka Okafor

Why Are They Here? :
Kenny Gattison

Chicago Bulls: 9.5/10 (Nailed It)
Notable Omissions:
Norm Van Lier
Ben Gordon
Reggie Theus (On the Kings, could've been on both)
Kirk Hinrich

Why Are They Here? :
Steve Kerr (Can't hate on the coach, but top 15? I don't think so)

Cleveland Cavaliers: 6/10 (Close, but no cigar)
Notable Omissions:
Hot Rod Williams (WTF?)
Shawn Kemp (2 time All-Star for the Cavs, surely better than Varejao)
Walt Frazier (Already in the game, could've been added here)
Lenny Wilkins
Mo Williams

Why Are They Here? :
Kevin Love (Sorry, T'wolves? 100%. But Hasn't done nearly enough to be an all time top 15 player here)
Anderson Varejao (Something to be said for time served i.e. Udonis Haslem, but Varejao is taking up a spot on this roster)

Dallas Mavericks: 6/10 (Some Glaring Misses)
Notable Omissions:
Brad Davis (Would've been great! I'm sure it was a licensing issue)
Jerry Stackhouse (No shame in using Jerry 2 or 3 times for these teams)
Shawn Marion (Same as above)
Josh Howard

Why Are They Here? :
J.J. Barea (Seriously??)
Brendan Haywood (Outrageous, perhaps the least deserving player on all teams, if ANYHTING should've been on the Wizards)

Denver Nuggets: 9/10 (Very Solid Job)
Notable Omissions:
Byron Beck (Not a player you hear a lot about, but Byron was the real deal. First retired number by the franchise and a multiple time all-star in the ABA & NBA)
Marcus Camby (Sad, clearly a rights issue. He'll unfortunately muck things up for the 11' Nuggets team, as well at 99' Knicks & All-Time Raptors. A Key Missing player)
Calvin Natt
Reggie Williams (He's in the game also)

Why Are They Here? :
Allen Iverson (Had amazing stats for the ballclub, but didn't even play 2 full seasons)
Nick Van Exel
Danilo Gallinari

Detroit Pistons: 7/10 (Not entirely 2K's fault due to licensing, but there are a few missteps here)
Notable Omissions:
George Yardley (The First great player in Pistons history)
Kelly Tripucka (Would've loved this one)
Tayshaun Prince (Outrageous, key to the 04' Championship)
Rasheed Wallace (No surprise here, wasn't in 2K last year either)
Mark Aguirre (Without Mark, no way the Pistons go back-to-back Championships)

Why are They Here? :
Andre Drummond

Golden State Warriors: 9/10 (No arguments here)
Notable Omissions:
Paul Arizin (Criminal, During his 10-year career, he averaged 22.8 points and 8.6 rebounds, won a championship and made the All-Star Team every single season of his career)
Jeff Mullins (Key part of championship teams with Thurmond)

Why Are They Here? :
Durant (Sorry, not after 1 year. A finals MVP can't save him here)

Houston Rockets: 10/10 (A++++)
Notable Omissions:
Rudy Tomjanovich (Most don't know that Rudy T. was more than just their 2x Championship winning coach, he played all 11 seasons of his career with the organization)
Charles Barkley (We all know why)
John Lucas

Why Are They Here? :
Patrick Beverly (LOLOLOL)


Indiana Pacers 2/10: (The most poorly represented team, even giving a pass with Reggie Miller, 2K really struggled securing rights to the Pacers most important players)
Notable Omissions:
Reggie Miller (We all know why)
Mel Daniels (THE BEST PACER OF ALL-TIME)
Waymon Tisdale
Dale Davis (Top 5 player in franchise history, they had to secure him!)
Vern Fleming (Top 10 player, key to their success for over 10 years)
Austin Croshere
Chris Mullin (3 VERY important and productive seasons for Mully)
Danny Granger
Jeff Foster
Derrick McKey

Why Are They Here? :
Ron Artest (Malace at the Palace & a few DPOY's can't save Artest from being here, just shows you how much 2K struggled with getting licensing, better than a current player though)
David West
Roy Hibbert (LOLOLOL)
George Hill (LOLOLOL)
Lance Stephenson (LOLOLOL)

Los Angeles Clippers: 5/10 (Missing the best player in Franchise history hurts them here, also filled in key spots with recent players)
Notable Omissions:
Elton Brand (Too bad they couldn't get their franchise leader in basicially everything to agree to a deal)
Lamar Odom (Obvsiously a rights deal)
Randy Smith (THE MAN!! Look this guy up!)
Chris Kaman (Never my favorite player, but the man is a Clipper legend, as odd as that sounds)
Loy Vaught
Ken Norman

Why Are They Here? :
Eric Bledsoe
Eric Gordon
Jamal Crawford
J.J. Redick

Los Angeles Lakers: 10/10 (Perfection!)
Notable Omissions:
A.C. Green
Happy Hairston

Why Are They Here? :
None

Memphis/Vancouver Grizzlies: 9/10 (Pretty Much Nailed It)
Notable Omissions:
Bryant “Big Country” Reeves (This one would've been fun. First draft pick in team history, and had a decent enough career cut short due to injuries. Gasol Brothers soften this blow for me though)
Michael Dickerson (Man would this have been sweet. The 2 years this guy had in Vancouver were INSANE to say the least. Go check out his highlights!)
Lorenzen Wright
Stromile Swift

Why Are They Here? :
Byron Scott (Almost perfect roster here, at least they decided to go with someone from the Vancouver days)


Miami Heat: 10/10 (Perfect)
Notable Omissions:
Grant Long
Jamal Mashburn (I guess having him on 3 of these teams would've been a bit much. Just shows you how valuable a player this guy was though)
Bimbo Coles

Why Are They Here? :
None

Milwaukee Bucks: 7/10 (Missing 3 of the top 10 players in team history, but they did well overall)
Notable Omissions:
Marques Johnson (One of the biggest players left off in this entire mode)
Glenn Robinson (No Big Dawg is really unfortunate. Thought his son couldve helped us here)
Sam Cassell

Why Are They Here? :
Brandon Jennings (LOLOLOL)

Minnesota T'wolves: 8/10 (Got mostly everyone you could want. A few key missing players though)
Notable Omissions:
Tom Gugliotta (Really a shame on this one. The first all-star in team history, and was a very solid player during his Wolves tenure)
Doug West (Oh c'mon!! Mr. Timberwolf. 9 years spent in the great north)
Malik Sealy (Would've been a VERY nice tribute to have him)
Sam Mitchell
Anthony Peeler

Why Are They Here? :
Zach LaVine (LOLOLOL)
Trenton Hassel (Gee Whiz, they were searching BADLY)

New Orleans Pelicans/Hornets: 10/10 (2K Didn't have much to work with here, they did fine)
Notable Omissions:
Jamaal Magloire

Why Are They Here? :
Demarcus Cousins

New York Knicks: 9.5/10 (No Complaints Here)
Notable Omissions:
Bill Bradley (Top 10 player in their history missing here)
Latrell Spreewell
Anthony Mason (R.I.P.)
David Lee

Why Are They Here? :
Kirstaps Porzingis (Not Just Yet Unicorn)

OKC Thunder/Seattle Supersonics: 10/10 (Only 1 or 2 Major Players Missing)
Notable Omissions:
Rashard Lewis (The 'Big-3' MVP Himself, too bad they couldn't get his rights)
Gus Williams

Why Are They Here? :
None


Orlando Magic: 7.5/10 (A few key missing players, but overall got the best of the best)
Notable Omissions:
Scott Skiles (Big Miss, surprised we couldn't get the all time assist leader in franchise history, lets not forget his 30 assist game also)
Pat Garrity (The best example of rewarding time served here, I actually know Pat and I'm going to ask him about this one)
Mike Miller
J.J. Redick (Total miss, needed to be here instead of the Clippers)
Hedo Turkoglu (Missing this stud sucks)
Rashard Lewis (See Above)

Why Are They Here? :
Aaron Gordon (Oh C'mon)
Nikola Vucevic (LOLOLOL)
Brian Shaw (Wasn't going to include him on the list, but he really just shouldn't have made the cut)


Philadelphia 76ers: 6/10 (Some Very big pieces missing here, some unavoidable but got most of the key pieces, tough to do with such a storied franchise)
Notable Omissions:
Bobby Jones (TOTAL failure here, especially because he's in the game)
Moses Malone (See Previously mentioned)
Dolph Schayes
Chet Walker
Charles Barkley (We know why)
Andrew Toney

Why Are They Here? :
Joel Embiid (You're Kidding Me Right?)
J'rue Holiday (Not a bad fill in for guys they couldn't get rights to, but certainly wouldn't be here otherwise)
Aaron McKie

Phoenix Suns: 9.5/10 (Can't blame them for no Barkley, recovered nicely with some new players, and the key parts of the 92' team)
Notable Omissions:
Dick Van Arsdale (The first star of the Suns, spent his entire career in the desert)
Charles Barkley (Getting old at this point)
Walter Davis
Alvan Adams
Mark West

Why Are They Here? :
Goran Dragic


Portland Trail Blazers: 3/10 (Anytime you're missing 3 of the top 6 players in your franchise's history, it's going to be tough, but they missed a few player already in the game to makeup for it, really bad job on this one, if it wasn't for the Pacers, this would be the most poorly represented team)
Notable Omissions:
Rasheed Wallace (Getting Old at this point)
Brandon Roy (One of the most wanted players in 2K, shame they couldn't come to an agreement. This one stings)
Geoff Petrie (Big miss, this guy was a key piece of the 77' squad, and when he was traded a year later decided to retire and just stay in Portland. What a guy!)
Mo Lucas (Again, a real tough one to miss. Such a cornerstone to the franchise's history.
Damon Stoudamire (In The game, needs to be on this team)
Cliff Robinson (This one is BAFFELING, in the game NO EXCUSE HERE)
Buck Williams (Also in the game, and needed to be here to makeup for missed pieces)
Scottie Pippen (Are you following the pattern here?)
Brian Grant

Why Are They Here? :
C.J. McCollum (Not just yet buddy)
Isaiah Rider (No WAY this choice is just plain BAD)
Wesley Matthews
Nicolas Batum (Solid tenure for the Blazers, but compared to other names on this list, shouldn't be here)


Sacramento Kings: 8.5/10 (Lots of missing players from the early Cincinatti/Kansas City days, but not going to hold that against them)
Notable Omissions:
Jack Twyman (Would've been cool)
Brad Miller
Sam Lacey
Tom Van Arsdale
Otis Birdsong
Wayman Tisdale

Why Are They Here? :
Rudy Gay (Pretty Pathetic)
Antoine Carr (Was an okay player for the Kings, they had his rights and clearly wanted to use him)

San Antonio Spurs: 7.5/10 (Got Everything They Needed To Get, but still some players left to be desired)
Notable Omissions:
James Silas (The first retired number for the Spurs, Silas spent 9 years with the franchise and was a staple through out the 70's)
Alvin Robertson (Top 10 player in franchise history. Was most known for being one of only 4 players in NBA history to record a quadruple double)
Mike Mitchell
Larry Kenon
Malik Rose
Chuck Person (Is in the game, should've been here also)

Why Are They Here? :
LaMarcus Aldridge (Has no place on this team)
Danny Green (Definitely helped massively in beating the Miami Heat, but All-Time top 15 Spur? No)

Toronto Raptors: 10/10 (Missed 2-3 players, but got it right )
Notable Omissions:
Andrea Bargnani (The first overall pick in the 06' draft spent 7 rather impressive solid seasons with the club, before making his way out of the league. Currently playing in Europe, would've been a nice inclusion here. He was in 2k17 in the EuroLeague)
Marcus Camby (See Previous)
Charles Oakley (I mean.... why not?)
Donyell Marshall
Jerome 'JunkYard Dog' Williams (UPDATE: Will be added to this team!)

Why Are They Here? :
Jonas Valanciunas (LOLOLOL)
Terrance Ross (LOLOLOLOL)
Amir Johnson (6 years spent in Toronto certainly working in AJ's favor, but theres too many missing pieces listed above for him to be included here)


Utah Jazz: 8/10 (You've got pretty much everything you could ask for, handful of important snubs, but nothing 2K can do about that)
Notable Omissions:
Carlos Boozer (A key missing component on this team)
Mehmet Okur (Was thinking it would go this way, was not a part of the 04' Piston team on 2K17)
Darrell Griffith (Dr. Dunkenstein would've been a blast to play with)
Thurl Bailey
Rickey Green

Why Are They Here? :
Derrick Favors (Not entirely horrible, but would be nice we could've had someone from the aforementioned list above)
Rudy Gobert (Hmmm... I also suppose its alright under the circumstances)

Washington Wizards: 2.5/10 (So many important missing parts, unfortunately a few of which are already in the game. Was really a toss up between the Wiz and the Pacers for most poorly represented squad)
Notable Omissions:
Gilbert Arenas (Probably the MOST requested player from the last decade who we havent seen in a while, can't do anything about this one)
Juwan Howard (JH could've been on a number of teams on this list. Most notably Washington)
Gus Johnson (BIG Missing piece)
Walt Bellamy (Has been in previous iterations of 2K. Unfortunately hasnt been in since he passed away a few years ago. He's a top 3-4 franchise player. Real Shame)
Antawn Jamison (Surprised he isn't here, didn't think his rights would be that tough to get, a lot of recently retired guys seem to be absent)
Caron Butler (As of writing this review, he has tweeted @Ronnie2K about being included. Fingers crossed)
Michael Jordan (Really? Really? Jordan isn't here? WOW!)
Phil Chenier
Greg Ballard
Jeff Malone
Calbert Cheaney (The list ends here..whew)

Why Are They Here? :
Otto Porter Jr. (You're Kidding Me Right?)
Marcin Gortat (Yikes!)
Brad Beal (I guess its not entirely unforgivable given the fact that theres SO many missing players)

[VAWereWolf65]

Great write up but just so you know, Mookie Baylock isn't dead lol. He's currently in prison I think for manslaughter or something like that

Also, I think Goran Dragic is worthy of the All-Time Sun's roster. The suns aren't a historically strong franchise and Goran was on the All-NBA team in 2014 and was also an MVP candidate

[Newlegacy]

Most of your Why are they here lists don't make sense

Yes, certain players of the modern era will be there

The man who helped bring the Suns back to relevancy post Nash should definitely be on the team, especially if they don't get the rights to others

IT is one of the most beloved players in Boston Celtics history

Devin Harris makes sense

Love makes sense as does Andy, takin up a spot lmao all the while thinkin Kemp need to be there???

Gallo makes sense, Drummond makes sense, Artest makes sense, Hibbert and Lance makes sense, Crawford and JJ definitely make sense like what??

Jennings, Kristaps, Vucci Mane, Embiid, CJ, Wes, and Batum make a lot more sense than Scottie and Grant at least

Danny Green makes sense, Jonas makes sense over Oak the heck, Gobert makes sense as does Favors, and lastly Brad makes sense

[J_Posse]

Great write up, but I think Danny Green is deserving of an all - time spot. He is no better or worse than Bruce Bowen and (definitely) Avery Johnson.

The three questionable decisions are Robert Horry, Dennis Rodman, LaMarcus Aldridge & Vinny Del Negro, IMHO. None of them had the longevity or impact to deserve inclusion.

Yes, helped the team win 2 championship but he was a situational, role player in SA. Much more deserving of being on Houston's team.

from Bills Backer/Spurs Nation HQ

[nddot]

Great write up but at the end of the day, these are the all time teams based on their 2k overall, which is why some modern players are in the game instead of some players of the past.


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[bigball12]

Quote: Originally Posted by VAWereWolf65

Great write up but just so you know, Mookie Baylock isn't dead lol. He's currently in prison I think for manslaughter or something like that Also, I think Goran Dragic is worthy of the All-Time Sun's roster. The suns aren't a historically strong franchise and Goran was on the All-NBA team in 2014 and was also an MVP candidate

Thanks, took a lot longer than i thought it would to write this up. Fixed the Mookie aside.

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by Newlegacy

Most of your Why are they here lists don't make sense Yes, certain players of the modern era will be there The man who helped bring the Suns back to relevancy post Nash should definitely be on the team, especially if they don't get the rights to others IT is one of the most beloved players in Boston Celtics history Devin Harris makes sense Love makes sense as does Andy, takin up a spot lmao all the while thinkin Kemp need to be there??? Gallo makes sense, Drummond makes sense, Artest makes sense, Hibbert and Lance makes sense, Crawford and JJ definitely make sense like what?? Jennings, Kristaps, Vucci Mane, Embiid, CJ, Wes, and Batum make a lot more sense than Scottie and Grant at least Danny Green makes sense, Jonas makes sense over Oak the heck, Gobert makes sense as does Favors, and lastly Brad makes sense

I could be wrong, but I think the "Why are they here?" list could pretty much be interpreted as, "Players added to these teams because 2K couldn't get the rights of those who should probably be in their place."

1. For instance, Goran Dragic played well in Phoenix for a few years and the city embraced him. But compared to someone like Alvin Adams, an All-Star who played all 13 years of his career in Phoenix, played a key role in their Finals appearance in '76, and scored nearly 14,000 points, Dragic's impact doesn't really compare. It's a similar story when comparing Dragic to a six-time All-Star like Walter Davis.

2. Regarding Isaiah Thomas, he had a couple of great years in Boston and the city really did embrace him. But I think it's more than reasonable to question whether Thomas belongs over someone like Dennis Johnson, an all-star point guard who played over 350 more games for the Celtics than Thomas did and won two championships.

3. Devin Harris performed well enough for the Nets during his time there but I'm not sure he's more deserving of a spot than Stephon Marbury, who's already in the game and was just about at his peak during his time in New Jersey.

4. I can see your argument regarding Kevin Love and Anderson Varejao. When making these teams, I think one kind of has to balance skill, stardom, and longevity with the team. But if we want to advocate for a ballooning Shawn Kemp in Cleveland, then Kevin Love deserves consideration as well.

5. I think I'm with you on Danilo Gallinari as well. It's tough to advocate for Reggie Williams on one hand then dispute Danilo. The biggest knock would be his inability to go an entire season without missing 20-60 games. But when he plays, he's quite talented. I do think guys like Marcus Camby and Byron Beck had bigger impacts on the franchise though.

6. I think Andre Drummond may make sense considering the license circumstances, but I personally may have preferred Rasheed Wallace, George Yardley, and maybe even Kelly Tripucka. And in the scheme of importance to the franchise, I think Tayshaun Prince might have even made more sense.

7. Jamal Crawford and J.J. Redick make sense, but only because there's 5-7 other players from the franchise's history that'd probably make way more sense but didn't have their likenesses secured. Those two make very little sense compared to guys like Elton Brand and Randy Smith. They're a little more debatable when comparing to the next echelon of missing players like Lamar Odom and Ken Norman. And they'd probably have a case compared to the likes of Corey Maggette (big time numbers but questionable impact) and Chris Kaman (eight years in L.A., all-star appearance). Generally speaking, if the All-Time Clippers were done correctly, Crawford and Redick would be struggling to find room for a spot.

I guess that's pretty much the case with all the players questioned. They might make sense considering the circumstances but their spot might also evaporate if 2K could actually secure the players who truly belong.

[bigball12]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

I could be wrong, but I think the "Why are they here?" list could pretty much be interpreted as, "Players added to these teams because 2K couldn't get the rights of those who should probably be in their place." ..... I guess that's pretty much the case with all the players questioned. They might make sense considering the circumstances but their spot might also evaporate if 2K could actually secure the players who truly belong.

Exactly right.