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Old 10-20-2017, 10:49 AM   #33
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Re: NBA 2K taking out 5 Out set was a SOFT MOVE

Thank you Czar for taking the time out to fix and address the issue. I was going to ask what happens now that the 5-out was removed from the freelance menu but people can still do it.

Thank you both for the effort to address it, taking the time out to communicate with the community, and for addressing the underlying issues in the game that make this a problem and how difficult it is to fix, as well as addressing the individuals that would go out of their way to play this way, and the community that embraces it.

I hope next year we see the 5 out back in the game, not so that it can be used again, but because it would mean that the underlying defense has been improved in order to deal with it, which is a plus for everyone.

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Old 10-20-2017, 12:21 PM   #34
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After seeing your freelance videos from last year and how utterly cheesy and unrealistic they were I'm not surprised you hold this opinion.

Fact of the matter on 5 Out is that it's totally unrealistic and doesn't even come close to a real NBA offense. Five guys literally just standing on the perimeter doesn't exist anywhere in the NBA. All 5 out ever did was cater to the lowest common denominator of the community. The guys who were too brain-dead to play real ball and instead chose to rely on the broken AI help D that has been perpetually present for years now. It didn't matter how great you were on the sticks, unless you set your D to no help (again, unrealistic because no NBA defense just plays straight 1 on 1 with no help) a defender would run in, your other three defenders wouldn't rotate and you'd give up the easy three. It was entirely unavoidable.

I'm glad they took this out and I can't tell you how glad I am that guys like you are denied the opportunity to waste my time on this game by playing a style of basketball that doesn't exist at any level of the game

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I couldn't have said it any better.

5 out isn't even that great of a set. There's nary any strategy involved in 2K18's version. It's drive-and-kick hogwash that exploits the AI rather than the user.

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Old 10-20-2017, 12:58 PM   #35
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I couldn't have said it any better.

5 out isn't even that great of a set. There's nary any strategy involved in 2K18's version. It's drive-and-kick hogwash that exploits the AI rather than the user.
It expliots user this year as well because of the way user defense is this year. I guess it's input lag
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Good that they took it out, but like the bro said there’s an alternative now to it thats actually better then the freelance for it lol. And to be honest we need on ball defense better etc.. also good video from the Prez DaCzar!
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Czar has it totally right, the number of players who want to shoot 90% and dunk on every drive far outnumber the guys who want to play some sim-ish basketball with plays, cuts, matchups etc.
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Good that they took it out, but like the bro said there’s an alternative now to it thats actually better then the freelance for it lol. And to be honest we need on ball defense better etc.. also good video from the Prez DaCzar!
I think Horns is ok. It's not like the middle of the floor is wide open. And I'm sitting there watching someone dribble over and over just to blown by you lol.
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Czar has it totally right, the number of players who want to shoot 90% and dunk on every drive far outnumber the guys who want to play some sim-ish basketball with plays, cuts, matchups etc.
A lot of people are reaaaaaaally bad at this game idc keep.it sim
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I think Horns is ok. It's not like the middle of the floor is wide open. And I'm sitting there watching someone dribble over and over just to blown by you lol.
The horns set space the floor been knew about, meant an alternate way to do the fist 5 out scheme. I was goin to post a video on it but ppl on my timeline don’t want me to put it out there so I won’t lol..
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