Are hook shots glitched this year?

[Double_Dribble Rea]

Does anyone else find that hook shots are completely useless this year on HOF. I played a game as the 71 bucks against the warriors thinking Kareem would eat Zaza and West for breakfast, I started a game just feeding Kareem in the post to test his skyhook shot percentages and ended up going something like 5/40 by the end of the first half. Is it me or is the post hook glitched this year?

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[olajuwon34]

Re: Are hook shots glitched this year?

there useless on almost any difficulty, this year the post seems about faking your opponent, which doesnt work on the computer, so online the post can work, but at the end of the day its broken, because if normal shots in the post dont go in, than why would anyone jump at them in the first place, once everyone realizes that most post shots just dont go in no matter how close to the basket you took them, then everyone online will just stay on they're feet nullifying most moves in the post, just like the cpu.

[aakaido]

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I've always thought post hooks have been useless for the last several 2K games unless you had a big that was rated in the high 80s or 90s. I've conditioned myself to try to crash for offensive rebounds as soon as I see my teammate motion for one.

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[Dgre8est]

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The hook shot or the jump hook is trash in 2k18.


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[Dgre8est]

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Does anyone do online 2k leagues?


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[awg811]

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Post Scorers are the only archetype that doesn't get any badges for their skill. Another case of 2k making mistakes and overlooking things.
No post fade badge or post hook badge. And the post badges they do get shot creators also get.

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[HoustonHarden]

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Success is based on ratings and not many bigs have 80+

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Post Scorers are the only archetype that doesn't get any badges for their skill. Another case of 2k making mistakes and overlooking things.
No post fade badge or post hook badge. And the post badges they do get shot creators also get.

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I noticed that . If you put post scoring as secondary you post game will be in the mid 70s for post fades and hooks. No badges for those and those moves really won’t fall.

[Vroman]

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Hook shots were really powerful in 2k17 , but player had to have good animation and high rating. I've played alot with Spurs on PNO and killed opponents with hooks using Gasol and Aldridge. I had some games where i hit 10+ green light hook shots. Now we don't have meter on hook shot, but that's not the issue.

First problem is bunch of animations bundled together, we used to have dozen of different animations to choose from and you'd know what kind of hook u pull off every time. However now we have much less animation packages each containing more different hooks and its dice roll if u pull off good hook shot animation. There is one good animation in the "hook 2" bundle where you really lean back to throw it with one hand, its the only hook animation that i can confidently hit over defender, but at the same situation and button combo i can pull off different animation which is auto brick if defender nearby.

Second problem is it require extra space against the defender. Defensive player don't even need to put hand up to force a miss, you almost need to be wide open to hit a hook shot which make it useless as such type of shot is supposed to be pulled right over defender.

And last problem is other type of scoring is much better. Especially case for park/pro am where shooting is WAY beyond realistic. Why ever risk taking a post shot in general when little bit of space for jumpshot is so reliable to score and its so easy to create it. Only in 2k16 i felt like there was a reason to use post scoring because defense was much better in general and it was harder to create a jumpshot opportunity.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Hook shots were really powerful in 2k17 , but player had to have good animation and high rating. I've played alot with Spurs on PNO and killed opponents with hooks using Gasol and Aldridge. I had some games where i hit 10+ green light hook shots. Now we don't have meter on hook shot, but that's not the issue.

First problem is bunch of animations bundled together, we used to have dozen of different animations to choose from and you'd know what kind of hook u pull off every time. However now we have much less animation packages each containing more different hooks and its dice roll if u pull off good hook shot animation. There is one good animation in the "hook 2" bundle where you really lean back to throw it with one hand, its the only hook animation that i can confidently hit over defender, but at the same situation and button combo i can pull off different animation which is auto brick if defender nearby.

Second problem is it require extra space against the defender. Defensive player don't even need to put hand up to force a miss, you almost need to be wide open to hit a hook shot which make it useless as such type of shot is supposed to be pulled right over defender.

And last problem is other type of scoring is much better. Especially case for park/pro am where shooting is WAY beyond realistic. Why ever risk taking a post shot in general when little bit of space for jumpshot is so reliable to score and its so easy to create it. Only in 2k16 i felt like there was a reason to use post scoring because defense was much better in general and it was harder to create a jumpshot opportunity.

Yep . 2k said hands down man down but that only applies to catch and shoot shots. Not leaning Difficult shots , postfades , hooks , etc ... for all those shots just run into the offensive player no foul will be call and it will be a great contest.

Also there are way “better “ shots than the post that it’s almost useless unless you are doing a dropstep.

[olajuwon34]

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I agree with what Vroman said , if your playing any team up mode online , your team mates dont want to settle for giving the ball to the post man, because to me, this years game seems like its geared around jump shooting and slashing to the rim for a dunk or layup, most post shots if even barely contested miss, there is the post shimmy fade which might be the most reliable, but not all post players have a high post fadeaway, shaq use to kill defenders when he got close to the rim with his hook shot, but in this game, its meaningless, i have missed shots right under the rim with some of the most dominant big men in basketball, but yet seen guards hit circus shots on defenders of almost every position with more consistency, when i have the ball in the hands of an elite low scorer, and a guy almost under the damn hoop stanchion can jump and contest the shot which should just be an easy gimme layup or finish, then this part of the game is completely broken.

[Yesh2kdone]

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Yep . 2k said hands down man down but that only applies to catch and shoot shots. Not leaning Difficult shots , poabtdades , hooks , etc ... for all those shots just run into the offensive player no foul will be call and it will be a great contest.

Also there are way “better “ shots than the post that it’s almost useless unless you are doing a deopnatep .

[jlaz]

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hooks and post fades are two things i almost never go to anymore (offline).

[jyoung]

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There is one good animation in the "hook 2" bundle where you really lean back to throw it with one hand, its the only hook animation that i can confidently hit over defender, but at the same situation and button combo i can pull off different animation which is auto brick if defender nearby.

I know exactly which animation you're talking about, and it really is the only good hook shot animation in the game that consistently generates enough space to register as open or wide open. It's basically a "hook fadeaway." But the problem is that there's no way to consistently trigger that specific hook shot animation. The "hook 2" package that it's in has like 5 or 6 different animations that are all assigned to same button command. And only one of those animations (the "hook fadeaway") is worth using, because every other hook will have the shot coverage register as contested.

post fades i almost never go to anymore (offline).

They're high percentage shots if your fade rating is in the 80s or higher and the coverage is wide open. Getting the coverage to be wide open is the hard part this year. There's only a small number of fade animations in the game that are capable of consistently generating wide open coverage against a CPU. Against a human, it's a lot easier to get wide open by making them back up and trapping them in a hands up animation.

If you put post scoring as secondary you post game will be in the mid 70s for post fades and hooks.

I don't understand why 2K gave secondary post scorers such low post ratings compared to how high the post ratings are on archetypes that have no post scoring.

If your post ratings aren't at least in the low 80s then you will brick most of your shots, even if they're wide open.

Yet take look at the ratings on some of these archetype combinations:

post scoring shot creator = 81 post ratings
post scoring rebounder = 80 post ratings
post scoring sharpshooter = 77 post ratings
post scoring playmaker = 76 post ratings
post scoring slasher = 76 post ratings
post scoring lockdown = 75 post ratings

pure shot creator = 76 post ratings
pure rebounder = 75 post ratings
pure sharpshooter - 70 post ratings

If 2K was going to let pure archetypes with no post scoring get ratings in the 70s, then every one of the secondary post scorer mixes should have come with ratings in the 80s.

I think just adding a 5 point increase to the ratings on all the post scorer mixes would make them more viable.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: Are hook shots glitched this year?

Lmaoo I’m ashamed