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Old 01-27-2018, 06:11 PM   #57
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Re: Issues with 2K e-league being on a different build of the game?

I had a meeting/tour with members of OWL yesterday, and asked him about this. He said that Blizzard doesn't now or plan to maintain a separate build for OWL. The game the pros play is the same game casuals play. In fact, they go so far as to withhold updates to not materially impact the game during the season.

Jeebs is absolutely talking out of his rectum.

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Old 01-27-2018, 06:33 PM   #58
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I understand Jeebs made an *** of himself with the statement but we still riding his *** after he conceded to move on is a bad look on us too.

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Old 01-27-2018, 07:15 PM   #59
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Not really. No one is riding his johnson by pointing out he made a ridiculous comment. It's okay to call him out on that as long as we maintain a somewhat respectful forum decorum

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Old 01-27-2018, 07:16 PM   #60
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I think by build he meant the latest most patched version of the current game. We're playing a different build of 2K18 today than we were at release. Same game just some things tweaked. I don't think it's deceiving or anything to get bent out of shape about.
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I think the contributing factor to different "builds" is that there is going to be a transition from being a yearly title (which they are still contractually obligated to do) to being a 24/7 eSport.

There is no "League of Legends 2015" etc. They have many patches and balance updates over the course of the year but there is no official release.

Even then, non-annualized games with competitive scenes run their their competitions on the same latest patch that everyone plays on. This is why you get things like the League of Legends community releasing videos, streams, and interviews with pros talking to the overall community about how the game effects everyone.

Even when the game is constantly updated, the pros and the remaining community plat on the same build.

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I had a meeting/tour with members of OWL yesterday, and asked him about this. He said that Blizzard doesn't now or plan to maintain a separate build for OWL. The game the pros play is the same game casuals play. In fact, they go so far as to withhold updates to not materially impact the game during the season.

This is like the example I mentioned of the most recent Rainbow Six Siege patch lacking character nerfs that the overall community wants, but were withheld for the short term consideration of the pro community. These are challenges that I hoped would help to improve 2K for everyone, but if the builds are different then they won't.

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Great points man I think 2K might be the only sports game to do it at this point if thats even what it is..I know it couldn't be Madden because their patches affect all Game Modes as a unit (Competitive to Sim) which is why they are having a hard time balancing the patches, and gameplay vs. the outcry of the sim crowd..

Another challenge I hoped would improve 2K for the better.

I've already heard the 2K league attempting to separate the play of the 2K league from the larger community by discouraging the 5-out, which I can't stand personally, but from a competitive standpoint I don't see how they can try to dictate strategy and eliminate a tactic that works within the parameters of the game they created. In other games if a certain strategy or tactic is frowned upon by the developers they would change the game in a way that makes the strategy less viable and it would naturally fade from competition because of its ineffectiveness. These are the types of conflicts that I hoped the 2K league would surface and lead to 2K improving the game for everyone which is why I was interested when I heard about the 2K league being on a different build.

Since I don't have clear info on what the "different build" is exactly and how it will be used I'll have to wait and see how it plays out in a few months.

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Old 01-28-2018, 06:12 PM   #61
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There is no other game that runs their league mode on a different build, but we're talking about a sports game here which is rather unique from other e-sport titles.

Personally, if it's not 1v1 with NBA teams I'm not interested in watching or playing. This pro-am stuff has nothing to do with basketball skills and isn't a good representation of the game.

Your opinion, but pro-am more closely represents the real NBA than a bunch of bots 1 person controls. The execution of it is a different story, but I put that more on 2K than the players themselves. 5 out would be less effective if the unlimited HOF badge didn't stretch the defense out to 40 feet out. But pro-am and esports plays plenty of sense 'cause it's team based all human.
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Even then, non-annualized games with competitive scenes run their their competitions on the same latest patch that everyone plays on. This is why you get things like the League of Legends community releasing videos, streams, and interviews with pros talking to the overall community about how the game effects everyone.
Why are people acting like this E League won't be the latest patch that everyone is playing on? None of the other tournaments were played on vastly different builds of the game. They patched/nurfed some things, and that was it. Why is this being perceived as anything different?
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Even then, non-annualized games with competitive scenes run their their competitions on the same latest patch that everyone plays on. This is why you get things like the League of Legends community releasing videos, streams, and interviews with pros talking to the overall community about how the game effects everyone.

Even when the game is constantly updated, the pros and the remaining community play on the same build.
I think you are misunderstanding a bit here.

When NBA 2K19 releases there will still be an obligation to sell copies of NBA 2K20. If NBA 2K19's gameplay gets continually updated with 2K20 tech, then there ceases to be a compelling reason to drop $60 on the following year's game.

When a new Rainbow Six or Street Fighter game drops it isn't a patch update. It is a new version of the game that stands on its own and has a separate competitive scene from the previous iteration.

2K League (an NBA entity) wants to be an LoL-like scene with non-annualized updates, but 2K Sports (the game studio) still operates very much like the latter. Each yearly release of the game is essentially a new build (they just have much shorter dev cycles than your average game). Those are two distinctly different directions and eventually they will need to pick one before crashing into the highway divider.
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I understand Jeebs made an *** of himself with the statement but we still riding his *** after he conceded to move on is a bad look on us too.

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