NBA 2K19 Screenshot - Kawhi Leonard (Overall Rating - 94)

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Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

LOL, what injury was that? Reconstructive knee surgery?

I am also very curious to know what type of injury was that because he spent last season in rehabilitation and he barely played. It is certainly not serious, right?

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Quote: Originally Posted by alecast

The fact is that 2k is rating Leonard as if he was still an active superstar player which is not the case at all.

You're in the minority on this one.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

You're in the minority on this one.

And that doesn't mean I am wrong. Being in the majority many times does not mean anything.
Take the # 1 draft pick last year, Mr. Fultz. The guy is up to this point simply a bust and the majority was saying he should be a top draft pick.
Rating Leonard as a 94 does not stand for itself.

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Quote: Originally Posted by alecast

And that doesn't mean I am wrong. Being in the majority many times does not mean anything. Rating Leonard as a 94 does not stand for itself.

This isn't a nuanced argument worth disseminating, but sure I'll bite.

Kawhi Leonard
2016: 26.0 PER, 62 TS% on 26 USG%, 18 DRB%, 13 AST%, 2.8 STL%, 2.3 BLK%
2017: 27.6 PER, 61 TS% on 31 USG%, 16 DRB%, 19 AST%, 2.7 STL%, 1.8 BLK%
2018: 26.0 PER, 57 TS% on 31 USG%, 19 DRB%, 18 AST%, 4.3 STL%, 3.6 BLK%

2018 Dumbed down: 16-5-3-2-1 in only 23 MPG and wasn't 100%

Kawhi wasn't healthy and still played at his usual (top 5 player in the NBA) level.

You are acting like he tore his Achilles or broke his leg (or that he didn't hold himself out after being medically cleared).
He's 26 years old and the vast majority of his production comes from his skill and IQ rather than his athleticism.

Paul George snapped his leg in half and is still largely the same player he was before the injury. Not that you should let precedent stand in the way of your tunnel vision.

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Take the # 1 draft pick last year, Mr. Fultz. The guy is up to this point simply a bust and the majority was saying he should be a top draft pick.

Discussing the merits of Markelle Fultz as a #1 pick in a weak class is a wee bit different from being in the literal 0.01% of people that think the Raptors downgraded swapping DeRozan for Kawhi.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

This isn't a nuanced argument worth disseminating, but sure I'll bite. Kawhi Leonard 2016: 26.0 PER, 62 TS% on 26 USG%, 18 DRB%, 13 AST%, 2.8 STL%, 2.3 BLK% 2017: 27.6 PER, 61 TS% on 31 USG%, 16 DRB%, 19 AST%, 2.7 STL%, 1.8 BLK% 2018: 26.0 PER, 57 TS% on 31 USG%, 19 DRB%, 18 AST%, 4.3 STL%, 3.6 BLK% 2018 Dumbed down: 16-5-3-2-1 in only 23 MPG and wasn't 100% Kawhi wasn't healthy and still played at his usual (top 5 player in the NBA) level. You are acting like he tore his Achilles or broke his leg (or that he didn't hold himself out after being medically cleared). He's 26 years old and the vast majority of his production comes from his skill and IQ rather than his athleticism. Paul George snapped his leg in half and is still largely the same player he was before the injury. Not that you should let precedent stand in the way of your tunnel vision. Discussing the merits of Markelle Fultz as a #1 pick in a weak class is a wee bit different from being in the literal 0.01% of people that think the Raptors downgraded swapping DeRozan for Kawhi.

Great stats sheets, but I don't buy it.
Still waiting for the season to begin and see if Leonard plays well.
If he plays well, I am fine with him being a 94, a 95 or a 96 overall. Until then he should be an 88.

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TLDR: I can't be reasoned with and am sticking my head in the sand

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Quote: Originally Posted by alecast

Great stats sheets, but I don't buy it. Still waiting for the season to begin and see if Leonard plays well. If he plays well, I am fine with him being a 94, a 95 or a 96 overall. Until then he should be an 88.

That works the opposite way as well, you know?



Kawhi has proven he's a top player in this league. If he comes out rusty or ends up not looking like his old self, then they can certainly decrease his ratings.

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Quote: Originally Posted by alecast

Great stats sheets, but I don't buy it. Still waiting for the season to begin and see if Leonard plays well. If he plays well, I am fine with him being a 94, a 95 or a 96 overall. Until then he should be an 88.

Why would they make him worse than he was if he hasn't played any worse? That makes no sense. By that logic, they should lower everyone's ratings across the board since a lot of them haven't played all summer, and most haven't played since the regular season ended.

If he plays poorly, then they can lower his rating. But until that happens, we should operate under the assumption that he will be the same on the court as he was before, as there is no evidence to the contrary.