Instead of nerfing defense, why not adjust the number of fouls?

[The 24th Letter]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pappy Knuckles

For sure *thumbs up*. Like I said, I love the defense and don't want them to touch it at all. If you don't make bad passes or expose the ball carelessly, you should be fine. However, I just recognize (in the Park, especially) that guys are thoughtless about their steal attempts. It leads to ugly games where a lot of the skill is stripped away because you can get lucky with a steal if you can spam at will. If the fouls were more proportionate to the length of the games themselves it would be beneficial. The first couple of days of playing Pro-Am with my squad the interceptions were out of control. That wasn't a 2K19 issue, that was because everyone was trying to play this like 2K18, which taught a lot of bad habits. Now that everyone has slowed down and made sure they are making good passes, the quality of our games has increased 100%. Our turnovers have dropped to an appropriate level just because we're playing basketball and not 2K. Defense doesn't need to be touched.

Really good post, PK.

Not just 2K18 habits....2K19 doesnt let you do certain '2K' things you could do going back all the way to Last Gen 2K....

It looks like folks will be recklessly running into crowds of defenders by late September though.

https://twitter.com/Beluba/status/10...310212608?s=19

[tru11]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Really good post, PK. Not just 2K18 habits....2K19 doesnt let you do certain '2K' things you could do going back all the way to Last Gen 2K.... It looks like folks will be recklessly running into crowds of defenders by late September though. https://twitter.com/Beluba/status/10...310212608?s=19

i like the defense a lot.

steal spamming should result is more fouls and that is about it.
or increase the mis timed steal animation.

good read

[Pappy Knuckles]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Really good post, PK. Not just 2K18 habits....2K19 doesnt let you do certain '2K' things you could do going back all the way to Last Gen 2K.... It looks like folks will be recklessly running into crowds of defenders by late September though. https://twitter.com/Beluba/status/10...310212608?s=19

Ugh. It would be so sad if they tweaked the defense. Hopefully, Mike Wang stays strong.

[Kushmir]

Quote: Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76

I feel like people have been doing that for years. It's one of the reasons why I use icon passing.

Yeah I icon pass after the rebound and in transition. Crazy thing is the spam serves two purposes: The first is obviously trying to set a steal, but the crazy part is with deflections so high they hit the ball mid-flight and cause a turnover pretty often if you aren't careful--especially if you outlet to your PG (who's usually close by)

Spam is dangerous lol.

[EddieK76]

The problem isn't protecting the ball or not.

It's the bogus interceptions when the defenders head is turned which is a great time to pass in all other basketball spectrums just not this as somehow the defender still intercepts it (there is no skill involved in that). When spamming buttons to steal there is no skill involved as it's either going to be a steal or a foul and again in park there is ZERO penalty for a foul. When they are spamming you get stuck in an animation to where you can't do anything pass, move or anything.

I want defenders to be able to defend but not be super human people and or encourage cheese where spamming is rewarded and winning park games hand over fist.

[Thetruth9012]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Really good post, PK. Not just 2K18 habits....2K19 doesnt let you do certain '2K' things you could do going back all the way to Last Gen 2K.... It looks like folks will be recklessly running into crowds of defenders by late September though. https://twitter.com/Beluba/status/10...310212608?s=19

Well Mike

I arleady see people adjusting if you play vs really good team in park they dont lose the ball at all.

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[WarMMA]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pappy Knuckles

Ugh. It would be so sad if they tweaked the defense. Hopefully, Mike Wang stays strong.

Yh i'm hoping this too. Defense is finally good.