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  • Oldhead80
    Rookie
    • Oct 2014
    • 103

    #1

    The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

    I want to love this game, and there are aspects and additions to this year's version that are absolutely amazing and greatly enhance the sim experience.

    But...I can't ignore that this is the worst 2K from a sliding and overall lack of proper foot planting and unrealistic movements standpoint that I've played in many years.


    I've seen several instances of...


    * players slightly gliding into pass catch animations

    * players gliding into double team animations

    * players gliding into defensive stance animations

    * players with the ball warping into body up
    animations

    * players coming to a full stop, then gliding two more steps for layups or dunks.

    * Weird crouch animations bringing the ball up the court.

    *Players sliding into lob dunk attempts.



    ...this is all from an offline, player vs. CPU experience. There is WAY too much wonkiness right now in terms of player movement on the court.
  • Yesh2kdone
    Banned
    • Feb 2015
    • 1412

    #2
    Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

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    • Cavs2016
      Rookie
      • Oct 2015
      • 391

      #3
      Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

      I’m not entirely sure this new motion stuff was an upgrade. It feels slow, choppy, stiff, skate-y way too much.

      The movement isn’t fun or realistic feeling.

      It takes away from a lot of the beautiful shot animations.

      It just doesn’t flow or transition smoothly from one action to another.

      I’ve not touched the retail game yet, but from the videos I’ve seen, they have made improvements on defense with some mechanisms.

      2k has a long way to go in this part of the game. I guess we just have to be patient and voice our concerns in the meantime (at the risk of being labeled a troll on these forums)

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      • bls
        MVP
        • Oct 2003
        • 1786

        #4
        Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

        Originally posted by Oldhead80
        I want to love this game, and there are aspects and additions to this year's version that are absolutely amazing and greatly enhance the sim experience.



        But...I can't ignore that this is the worst 2K from a sliding and overall lack of proper foot planting and unrealistic movements standpoint that I've played in many years.





        I've seen several instances of...





        * players slightly gliding into pass catch animations



        * players gliding into double team animations



        * players gliding into defensive stance animations



        * players with the ball warping into body up

        animations



        * players coming to a full stop, then gliding two more steps for layups or dunks.



        * Weird crouch animations bringing the ball up the court.



        *Players sliding into lob dunk attempts.







        ...this is all from an offline, player vs. CPU experience. There is WAY too much wonkiness right now in terms of player movement on the court.


        Definitely agree, along with the steal spamming with no penalty whatsoever. I feel like im playing against RYU and KEN out their. Rapid fire button steal spamming at its finest. This years game reminds me of a previous 2k, can’t remember which year. The jersey glitch, the sliding, it’s all too familiar.


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        • ForeverVersatile
          Pro
          • Jan 2011
          • 3496

          #5
          Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

          Originally posted by Oldhead80
          I want to love this game, and there are aspects and additions to this year's version that are absolutely amazing and greatly enhance the sim experience.

          But...I can't ignore that this is the worst 2K from a sliding and overall lack of proper foot planting and unrealistic movements standpoint that I've played in many years.


          I've seen several instances of...


          * players slightly gliding into pass catch animations

          * players gliding into double team animations

          * players gliding into defensive stance animations

          * players with the ball warping into body up
          animations

          * players coming to a full stop, then gliding two more steps for layups or dunks.

          * Weird crouch animations bringing the ball up the court.

          *Players sliding into lob dunk attempts.



          ...this is all from an offline, player vs. CPU experience. There is WAY too much wonkiness right now in terms of player movement on the court.
          Honestly sounds like you've been in replay mode too much.

          This is the ugly side of sports video game animation. Certain animations/sequences require the actors to be aligned for the animations.. so you'll see sliding, especially on the ai side.

          You'll see similar problems in Madden/Live. I can't speak for other sports like Soccer or Hockey because I've never played them myself.

          So in short motion captured animations in the reason for the sliding.

          If you want to enjoy the game do not go into replay mode and inspect everything.


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          Last edited by ForeverVersatile; 09-13-2018, 08:01 PM.
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          • FixEverything2k
            Pro
            • May 2016
            • 577

            #6
            Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

            Originally posted by Yesh2k
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            I made a thread about this for 2k18.

            THE ANIMATIONS ARE TOOOOOO DAMN LONGGGG!!!!

            Thats why the gameplay and animations look smooth when you watch them play pre release its basically mini cutscenes strung together
            ... But hey VC sale!!

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            • ForeverVersatile
              Pro
              • Jan 2011
              • 3496

              #7
              Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

              Originally posted by FixEverything2k
              I made a thread about this for 2k18.

              THE ANIMATIONS ARE TOOOOOO DAMN LONGGGG!!!!

              Thats why the gameplay and animations look smooth when you watch them play pre release its basically mini cutscenes strung together
              That's obviously a bug.

              Do you want to play a modern basketball game or double dribble? No animations..No realism.
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              Last edited by ForeverVersatile; 09-13-2018, 09:03 PM.
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              • prestwood90
                Banned
                • Nov 2013
                • 1253

                #8
                Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
                Honestly sounds like you've been in replay mode too much.

                This is the ugly side of sports video game animation. Certain animations/sequences require the actors to be aligned for the animations.. so you'll see sliding, especially on the ai side.

                You'll see similar problems in Madden/Live. I can't speak for other sports like Soccer or Hockey because I've never played them myself.

                So in short motion captured animations in the reason for the sliding.

                If you want to enjoy the game do not go into replay mode and inspect everything.


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                Bro everything u say I tend to agree with.......this was so on point, people are so crazy with expectations that there’s always gonna be something that isn’t right or not good enough, 2K basketball is arguably the best sports game in the world and these threads are nonstop every year


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                • ForeverVersatile
                  Pro
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3496

                  #9
                  Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                  Originally posted by prestwood90
                  Bro everything u say I tend to agree with.......this was so on point, people are so crazy with expectations that there’s always gonna be something that isn’t right or not good enough, 2K basketball is arguably the best sports game in the world and these threads are nonstop every year


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                  Yeah the problem is the player gets mad that something didn't happen the way they wanted to and they go into replay and see sliding or warping occued. After that they start inspecting every little thing.

                  I know because i used to do the same thing.

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                  • prestwood90
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 1253

                    #10
                    Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                    Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
                    Yeah the problem is the player gets mad that something didn't happen the way they wanted to and they go into replay and see sliding or warping occued. After that they start inspecting every little thing.

                    I know because i used to do the same thing.

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                    I’m super OCD as many of us are, but at some point it’s easier on your nerves if u say “ it’s a video game and perfection is literally impossible “ lol it helped me some anyways, and movement sliders help me cope with some wonky stuff that can occasionally happen


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                    • Cavs2016
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 391

                      #11
                      Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                      Originally posted by prestwood90
                      Bro everything u say I tend to agree with.......this was so on point, people are so crazy with expectations that there’s always gonna be something that isn’t right or not good enough, 2K basketball is arguably the best sports game in the world and these threads are nonstop every year


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                      2k is the best sports game in the world, but that doesn’t mean it can’t get better. Yes, 2k has high expectations every year. But they also have a lot of support from its fans.

                      The fans are what make the game. 2k has a very loyal fan base.

                      I think it’s dumb to say 2k just copy and pastes the game every year. Moreso it appears they’re working hard towards setting the franchise up for decade(s) of success via the Neighborhood and online play and microtransactions.

                      The 2k fanbase is growing, and obviously so is the revenue and funding for the next game.

                      2k’s model for success is brilliant from a business standpoint.

                      For the team’s that work on gameplay we’re giving our feedback on where to invest those resources. Gameplay is the heart of the game.

                      2k’s long term success is dependent ultimately on its quality of gameplay. It’s what got 2k here in the first place, and now is no time to get complacent.

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                      • prestwood90
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 1253

                        #12
                        Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                        Originally posted by Cavs2016
                        2k is the best sports game in the world, but that doesn’t mean it can’t get better. Yes, 2k has high expectations every year. But they also have a lot of support from its fans.



                        The fans are what make the game. 2k has a very loyal fan base.



                        I think it’s dumb to say 2k just copy and pastes the game every year. Moreso it appears they’re working hard towards setting the franchise up for decade(s) of success via the Neighborhood and online play and microtransactions.



                        The 2k fanbase is growing, and obviously so is the revenue and funding for the next game.



                        2k’s model for success is brilliant from a business standpoint.



                        For the team’s that work on gameplay we’re giving our feedback on where to invest those resources. Gameplay is the heart of the game.



                        2k’s long term success is dependent ultimately on its quality of gameplay. It’s what got 2k here in the first place, and now is no time to get complacent.


                        I get it, I’m not saying be complacent but when do we finally appreciate the greatness ? It’s literally the same community criticism every year, it’ll never be right cause there’s always room for improvement like anything in life but it’s a never ending cycle that we’ve began to engage in


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                        • Cavs2016
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 391

                          #13
                          Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                          Originally posted by prestwood90
                          I get it, I’m not saying be complacent but when do we finally appreciate the greatness ? It’s literally the same community criticism every year, it’ll never be right cause there’s always room for improvement like anything in life but it’s a never ending cycle that we’ve began to engage in


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                          There’s a life lesson in this post. Sometimes we need to take a step back and appreciate what we have.

                          To quote T.I.

                          “What you need to do is be thankful
                          For the life you got, you know what I'm sayin?
                          Stop lookin' at what you ain't got
                          And start being thankful for what you do got”

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                          • prestwood90
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 1253

                            #14
                            Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                            Originally posted by Cavs2016
                            There’s a life lesson in this post. Sometimes we need to take a step back and appreciate what we have.



                            To quote T.I.



                            “What you need to do is be thankful

                            For the life you got, you know what I'm sayin?

                            Stop lookin' at what you ain't got

                            And start being thankful for what you do got”


                            Right on brother [emoji1303]


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                            • bls
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1786

                              #15
                              Re: The amount of sliding and unnatural movement in 2K19 is heartbreaking...

                              Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
                              Honestly sounds like you've been in replay mode too much.

                              This is the ugly side of sports video game animation. Certain animations/sequences require the actors to be aligned for the animations.. so you'll see sliding, especially on the ai side.

                              You'll see similar problems in Madden/Live. I can't speak for other sports like Soccer or Hockey because I've never played them myself.

                              So in short motion captured animations in the reason for the sliding.

                              If you want to enjoy the game do not go into replay mode and inspect everything.


                              Sent from my SM-G955U using Operation Sports mobile app


                              I witness it in h2h


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