Is everyone here OK with the ridiculously high rate at which 3 pointers go in?

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by basehead617

2k league games aren’t nonstop bombing open 3s. Food for thought..

Quote: Originally Posted by Kleinevos

They play on a different game though Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk

Based off of last years 2K League that version of the game wasn't that great either, but nevertheless a version of the game where people can't shoot an absurd 3pt percentage should be available for everyone to play.

[born2playball]

It's a combination of the ridiculous 3 point shooting (both slider's, badges, green's), poor defense player movement (offense just runs side to side and you can't keep up esp if you run into someone or hit a screen), reduced shot contest strength.


2k19 online is a basketball game for dummies (thanks Mike Wang, Scott OG, and the rest of the gameplay devs!). It's highly rewarding to be selfish and just run back and forth until you get a little bit of space for a green release from 3. Rinse and repeat.


The game get's frustrating really quickly when selfish cheesy basketball is more rewarding to play then it is to play smart team basketball.

[splashmountain]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thrustie

Whether you call it “sim” or “balance” is irrelevant. Tons of online players do want something that resembles real basketball. Some offline players really get on high horses. People have been exploiting offline content for decades and no sports game, including NBA 2K, has been able to make a true sim game that can’t be exploited by a determined user. There’s TONS of plays users can run to force the CPU into stupid responses. Just because you may ignore them or choose not to abuse them doesn’t mean no one does. I’m sure there’s a whole whack of players who abuse the Otto Porter effect or dumb double team logic when they play offline. I guess 2K shouldn’t even try to fix it because “exploiters gonna exploit!”

The reason you have so many exploits is not just because exploiters gonna exploit. its due to the fact that not one game company has truly tried to create a sim version of basketball. for the most part they either try an arcadey semi-sim version or just a pure arcade version.

The foundation 2k sets up will always be ripe for the abusing. Their foundation on the game is not based on actual physics(with the ball, players), its based on how to make the game LOOK realistic. This means they have chosen to be a reality show. yes it says reality before the word show. but the word show is the point you need to understand. there is no way in hell a TV station is about to put millions of dollars out there on a non produced show that they can't control the content for. not going to happen. so all of your REALITY shows are produced, some more than others. 2k and nba live are the same way. both games are produced to put out a certain look. some are more over produced than others. 2k has always always always had that vibe of OVER production. This is when you feel the canned animations are forcing you into certain scenarios/or scenes to be exact. They have done this a lot in 2k19.

If you want to build a basketball sim. you have to build it on real life principles. not overproduced principles.

The game would then be less exploited. because it will reward good basketball IQ and punish bad basketball IQ more times than not. players are people. and people are creatures of habit. if you keep rewarding me for doing the right thing, i will do the right thing more often. if i keep getting rewarded for doing the wrong thing. i will keep doing the wrong thing. this is Psychology people. 2k gets exploited like crazy because they reward you for abusing exploits time and time again.

[olajuwon34]

Quote: Originally Posted by born2playball

It's a combination of the ridiculous 3 point shooting (both slider's, badges, green's), poor defense player movement (offense just runs side to side and you can't keep up esp if you run into someone or hit a screen), reduced shot contest strength. 2k19 online is a basketball game for dummies (thanks Mike Wang, Scott OG, and the rest of the gameplay devs!). It's highly rewarding to be selfish and just run back and forth until you get a little bit of space for a green release from 3. Rinse and repeat. The game get's frustrating really quickly when selfish cheesy basketball is more rewarding to play then it is to play smart team basketball.

Players are starting to not pass also because of the off ball movement on offense and the way steals are, regarding if your playing with multiple users, they may be starting to feel its more effective to just use a screen back and forth then to risk passing it around because of ineffective off ball movement and highly susceptible stolen/tipped passes this game.

[nba2kpdx]

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[born2playball]

Quote: Originally Posted by olajuwon34

Players are starting to not pass also because of the off ball movement on offense and the way steals are, regarding if your playing with multiple users, they may be starting to feel its more effective to just use a screen back and forth then to risk passing it around because of ineffective off ball movement and highly susceptible stolen/tipped passes this game.

Yeah the passing animations were all messed up in 2k19, except for the alley oop passes and full court passes down court, which are far too easy to throw and complete. The pass animations in general were too floaty and easily deflected and picked off this year.


Another reason people never passed the ball was because of the cheesy dribbling and lack of ball tangability if people knew what they were doing. Just hold LT all the time, between the legs, behind the back, etc and the ball can never get touched by the defense.


Overall the balance of the game was just really bad in 2k19 the way the gameplay mechanics were all put together. Hopefully 2k20 is much better in terms of balance and promoting more team oriented basketball.

[Grandbadge]

Quote: Originally Posted by NoLeafClover

I'm shocked given the "sim" nature of this forum how little negative feedback there's been about how ridiculously easy it is to hit 3 pointers in NBA2K19. This isn't just about Sharphooters in the MyPlayer modes (Rec/Park/Pro Am) being broken in terms of both distance and ease of 3 point shots making 2 point shots seem basically worthless... it's also the case where what should be a viable strategy (like sagging off Russell Westbrook for example) isn't viable because the game gives far too much of a "boost" just for being open as opposed to the shooter's abilities. I get that many of you play MyLeague and can manually turn down sliders to make open 3's hit at a realistic rate, but for the rest of us who enjoy playing online as well, seeing people shoot 9/10 for 3 in a majority of games just kills the variety and skill needed to play good basketball. It also inherently de-values interior players, both in terms of post scoring/dunking/layups/floaters/midrange etc. but also for shot blockers and rebounders as there's no chance to block 3's, and no chance to grab rebounds when everything goes in. Given that Steph Curry (regarded as the greatest shooter ever) shoots something like 45% on open 3's, I have no idea what the gameplay guys at 2K are thinking allowing such a high rate of 3's to go in. YES, if you contest the 3 closely it lowers the chance, but just being "open" shouldn't be a HUNDRED PERCENT chance of hitting the 3... I mean even capping it at something like 70% would be a big improvement and still way better than anyone has ever shot in real life. What are your thoughts on 3 point shooting overall at the moment?

Nah, u just got to learn to play some defense. The timing is set on user timing so the idea of someone making a ton of 3s lies in the hands of the user and the defender.

[Grandbadge]

Quote: Originally Posted by born2playball

It's a combination of the ridiculous 3 point shooting (both slider's, badges, green's), poor defense player movement (offense just runs side to side and you can't keep up esp if you run into someone or hit a screen), reduced shot contest strength. 2k19 online is a basketball game for dummies (thanks Mike Wang, Scott OG, and the rest of the gameplay devs!). It's highly rewarding to be selfish and just run back and forth until you get a little bit of space for a green release from 3. Rinse and repeat. The game get's frustrating really quickly when selfish cheesy basketball is more rewarding to play then it is to play smart team basketball.

Learn to play some defense. The idea of user timing means the user can create his own reality based on the attributes of the players. Also, the defender can disrupt that by playing defense. Learn how to defend the attack and you wouldn't even post on threads like this