Who are the Real Life NBA Pure Sharpshooters?

[howardphillips214]

Quote: Originally Posted by GoDucks1224

Well when someone says ‘pure sharp’ I think of a guy who ONLY shoots and Klay does a helluva lot more than that. I don’t like defining Klay as one thing when it’s only a single facet of his game.

Even better... Klay has these vastly superior stats in almost every category besides shooting maybe, and pure sharps shoot twice the percentage that he does in real life... PLUS they play just as good defense with way lower stats. There's no risk at all in playing a pure sharp line up if you're smart. The ONLY reason people don't make pure stretch 7'3s is they only get limitless silver. With an 80something 3 and gold limitless you can pull up just as far as a 99 with HOF. Sure, you won't hit that as much as the 6'8 guard would but he'll hit it.

The gravity of stretch bigs on defense plus other shooters will break almost any defense unless you play perfect.

[LetItGo]

Quote: Originally Posted by splashmountain

take my boy ryan off the list. dirk is old as dirt. does he even count? lol. and look at dirk. a liability defensively(which is why his teams always played a lot of zone, and he's slow as hell.) frye was a pure too. money from 3, but trash at pretty much everything else. not quick at all.

What is Dirk good at besides shooting at this point in his career? He's a pure stretch big. He's a liability defensively. That's the point. Same with Ryan and Frye.

[splashmountain]

Quote: Originally Posted by Keith01

Klay is a 2-way shot creating pure sharp, aka it ain't in the game. Many NBA players won't fit in a 2K mold because they're better than the archetype. I mean MJ would be like a LDD posterizing playmaking shot creator etc etc.

klay is not a shot creator. sure he can do a step back jumper but thats about it. any drives he makes the the rack are suspect looking at best. you know it, and so do i. lol. the dude's best ability is sharp shooting. coming off of curls, pin downs, etc money, money and more money.

Jordan is a shot creating athletic finisher. he's not a playmaker. sure he could pass well enough. but he was never a true Floor general. i know someone will bring up one year where he had a bunch of assists. still, watch the games. he wasnt a true floor general. Pippen had those duties once he got on the team, then kukoc and pippen later down the line.


Jordan: Shot creating/Slasher
Kobe. Slashing/Shot creator

young Demar Derozan: Defensive/Slasher
Current Derozan: Slashing/Shot creator

James harden: Playmaking/Shot creator

Steph: sharpshooting/shot creator (with dimer badge on gold, Deep Range Dead eye on Hall of fame, all shooting badges on hall of fame, ankle breaker on hall of fame)

Klay: Pure Sharp (all shooting badges on hall of fame, Defensive stopper on hall of fame, pick pocket on Gold, Bruiser on silver)

Draymond: defensive/playmaker - Power Forward (dimer on Silver, Defensive stopper on Gold, Rim protector on Bronze.

KD: Sharp shooting/Shot creator SF (rim protector on silver, defensive stopper on Silver)

Iggy: playmaking/defender (dimer on silver, defensive stopper on hall of fame, pick pocket on Gold.)

^^i can easily make 90% of these nba guys in 2k based on what the archs are SUPPOSED to do. but the deal is this, you have to move some of the badges around. see we dont need 3 archs. we need 2 archs and some badge movement. meaning i can apply certain badges to certain guys. but I cant apply all badges to one guy. there are badges they dont allow for certain archs that they should and others that they make your main hall of fame badges that they shouldnt waste your time on. for example, Tear Dropper is not an athletic move. it's a shot creating move. Acrobat is both an athletic move and a shot creating move. either of those archs should be able to put that up to hall of fame depending on their other arch. thats why people dont think they could make a jordan or kobe properly. because you know the double clutch shots would brick in 2k due to the low acrobat badge they would give you for their archs right now.

Lonzo ball - Defensive/Playmaker (dimer on hall of fame, Rebounding on Silver, Defensive stopper on Gold, pick pocket on Gold, catch and shoot on Silver)

but the game wont give you rebounding for a PG. but they should. a guy like him or big ben simmons are on the glass for real. even jkidd was on that glass. look at westbrook on the glass like crazy.

Javale Mcgee: pure Athletic (Lob city on Hof, Posterizer on Hof, Relentless finisher on silver, Defensive stopper badge on Silver, Rim Protector on Hall of fame, Rebounding on Silver)

Demarcus Cousins(pre achilles)- Pure Post scorer (Dimer badge on Silver, Rebounding - Silver, Defensive stopper on Bronze, Rim protector on Bronze, corner specialist on bronze, all post move badges on Hof, Mid range deadeye on Silver.

You see my point. the archs are there some of the badges are, but there are a handful of badges that need to be moved to other areas to create these nba players properly. which means you can create your guy to be similar to them or similar to yourself if you actually play basketball.

[loso_34]

Quote: Originally Posted by splashmountain

klay is not a shot creator. sure he can do a step back jumper but thats about it. any drives he makes the the rack are suspect looking at best. you know it, and so do i. lol. the dude's best ability is sharp shooting. coming off of curls, pin downs, etc money, money and more money. Jordan is a shot creating athletic finisher. he's not a playmaker. sure he could pass well enough. but he was never a true Floor general. i know someone will bring up one year where he had a bunch of assists. still, watch the games. he wasnt a true floor general. Pippen had those duties once he got on the team, then kukoc and pippen later down the line. Jordan: Shot creating/Slasher Kobe. Slashing/Shot creator young Demar Derozan: Defensive/Slasher Current Derozan: Slashing/Shot creator James harden: Playmaking/Shot creator Steph: sharpshooting/shot creator (with dimer badge on gold, Deep Range Dead eye on Hall of fame, all shooting badges on hall of fame, ankle breaker on hall of fame) Klay: Pure Sharp (all shooting badges on hall of fame, Defensive stopper on hall of fame, pick pocket on Gold, Bruiser on silver) Draymond: defensive/playmaker - Power Forward (dimer on Silver, Defensive stopper on Gold, Rim protector on Bronze. KD: Sharp shooting/Shot creator SF (rim protector on silver, defensive stopper on Silver) Iggy: playmaking/defender (dimer on silver, defensive stopper on hall of fame, pick pocket on Gold.) ^^i can easily make 90% of these nba guys in 2k based on what the archs are SUPPOSED to do. but the deal is this, you have to move some of the badges around. see we dont need 3 archs. we need 2 archs and some badge movement. meaning i can apply certain badges to certain guys. but I cant apply all badges to one guy. there are badges they dont allow for certain archs that they should and others that they make your main hall of fame badges that they shouldnt waste your time on. for example, Tear Dropper is not an athletic move. it's a shot creating move. Acrobat is both an athletic move and a shot creating move. either of those archs should be able to put that up to hall of fame depending on their other arch. thats why people dont think they could make a jordan or kobe properly. because you know the double clutch shots would brick in 2k due to the low acrobat badge they would give you for their archs right now. Lonzo ball - Defensive/Playmaker (dimer on hall of fame, Rebounding on Silver, Defensive stopper on Gold, pick pocket on Gold, catch and shoot on Silver) but the game wont give you rebounding for a PG. but they should. a guy like him or big ben simmons are on the glass for real. even jkidd was on that glass. look at westbrook on the glass like crazy. Javale Mcgee: pure Athletic (Lob city on Hof, Posterizer on Hof, Relentless finisher on silver, Defensive stopper badge on Silver, Rim Protector on Hall of fame, Rebounding on Silver) Demarcus Cousins(pre achilles)- Pure Post scorer (Dimer badge on Silver, Rebounding - Silver, Defensive stopper on Bronze, Rim protector on Bronze, corner specialist on bronze, all post move badges on Hof, Mid range deadeye on Silver. You see my point. the archs are there some of the badges are, but there are a handful of badges that need to be moved to other areas to create these nba players properly. which means you can create your guy to be similar to them or similar to yourself if you actually play basketball.

demar derozan has never been a defender lol. I'd say hes a pure shot creator and has been his entire career.

[TheFinalEvent97]

Quote: Originally Posted by loso_34

demar derozan has never been a defender lol. I'd say hes a pure shot creator and has been his entire career.

Pure Shot Creator is more Joe Johnson, Old Kobe&MJ, Derozan is more a Shot Creating Slasher.

[splashmountain]

Quote: Originally Posted by loso_34

demar derozan has never been a defender lol. I'd say hes a pure shot creator and has been his entire career.

actually that is not true at all. he was known for good defense when he was younger but then he was more about getting to the rack. this was before his mid range game/turnaround kobe game became lights out like it is now.

I'm not saying he was ever on prime jimmy butler status on defense. but he was a known defender back then. but like usual when most guys start putting forth more effort on offense they slack on defense.

[splashmountain]

Quote: Originally Posted by GoDucks1224

Well when someone says ‘pure sharp’ I think of a guy who ONLY shoots and Klay does a helluva lot more than that. I don’t like defining Klay as one thing when it’s only a single facet of his game.

naw, klay pretty much is a shooter. yes he can score on the fast break. anyone can. its just that most teams with these pures on them dont have that luxury cause their team isnt good enough. klay has a little post game but he hasnt had to use it since KD came to town. Klay is the best pure shooter pure sharp there is. but he's a pure sharp/Defender. i know there is no such thing as that in 2k.

thats why should allow some guys to choose between some badges. that guy's defender badge is on hall of fame. because to me he's by far the best defender at his position, jimmy butler is next. only the new soft rules stops klay from completely locking his man up. if klay played in the early 2000's or even the 90's. he would be a known lock down defender.

but by no means is klay a quote un quote...shot creator. yes he can do a step back. but even that looks stiff an awkard doesnt it? he can't dribble that well. and he's not putting crazy moves on people. he just knows how to balance himself super quick. which is why he's the best at shooting like that.

people think he's a shot creator partially because the archs are not done right. i'm talking about doing them properly based on people you know who are or who were shot creators.

a pure shot creator would probably be lance stephenson. he has handles. does a lot of dancing with the ball. does a lot of shots off the dribble, fades, fakes, then fades the other way. step backs, hessies, back into a pull up. even when he goes to the rack its never in a straight line. he has to do a few moves first and when he gets in there with any traffic. he's giving you a scoop acrobatic layup almost every single time. he's athletic enough to have that posterizer on bronze to silver.

does klay play like lance? NOPE, not even close.

jamam crawford, pure shot creator. again, everything he does has to be done with a bunch of cute dribble moves first even when at times its not necessary.

kobe was a shot creator primary/athletic finisher 2ndary in his prime. when he was young. it was athletic finisher first, shot creator 2nd.

as he aged it became shot creator prime, post scorer 2ndary.

the thing is, he had a gold dimer badge. meaning he could pass very well. better than any non star Point guard. similar to james harden.

james is a more willing passer, especially in a mike d'antoni offense.

but the archs and badges are similar.

Klay plays nothing like these guys. therefore he can't be a shot creator.

[splashmountain]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rockie_Fresh88

Because Klay is one of the best , if not the best catch and shoot guy ever . Period . Obviously Klay is much more than that . But his ability to shoot the ball is legendary . The scoring ability of pure sharps are more align with Klay than those other guys mentioned .

see i dont have a problem with someone building a klay at the SG or SF spot. i have a problem with them building klay at 7'1 at the PF and center spots. thats not real. period.

and klay is a 99 rated pure sharp. not a 99 rated player vs all other players. if you ranked them by arch. he is by far the best pure you have ever seen in your life at the sg/sf positions.