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Old 07-16-2019, 04:13 PM   #1
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Overall Ratings do NOT Accurately Represent On-Court Value

Now that overall ratings for 2K20 are starting to come out, please take time to try to understand that Overall Ratings are heavily influenced by how the game calculates a player's specific attributes against its own biased positional system.

NBA 2K games assign an overall rating to a player based on specific skill attributes whose significance to overall rating are weighted by assigned positions (PG, SG, SF, PF, and C). This means that the calculations for overall rating has a significant dependence on which position a player is listed at. For example, point guards with higher passing stats are valued higher in the overall rating formula than centers with high passing stats.

Nikola Jokic, the center for the Nuggets, is a very skilled passer who is likely to have higher passing attributes than most centers. However, the game does not place significant overall rating value on passing attributes for centers. Instead, centers will boast a higher overall rating if they possess high attributes in rebounding and interior defense.



For a player like Jokic, his true value on the court won't be represented accurately by an overall player rating because the overall rating calculation system in 2K doesn't value his passing enough - simply because Jokic is listed as a center. This means that Ricky Rubio's passing attributes carry far more weight in an overall player rating than Nikola Jokic's passing attributes, even though Jokic is such a vital playermaker in the Nuggets offense that he rivals opposing teams' point guards playmaking ability.

Overall player rating does not accurately represent a player's value on the court. If we had a system that truly values players' attributes on a 1:1 scale, regardless of position, then an overall rating would matter more. But to debate cross-positional overall ratings and say that point guard [x] should have a higher overall rating than power forward [y], or to say that certain players' overall rating make them overrated/underrated just doesn't make much sense without questioning the current position-centric system of overall rating calculation that 2K implements.
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Old 07-16-2019, 05:02 PM   #2
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Re: Overall Ratings do NOT Accurately Represent On-Court Value

Individual attributes, badges, height, animations > pure overall

You can throw tendencies in there as well. LeBron might have the highest overall but I'd rather face him than someone like KD and Giannis.
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Old 07-16-2019, 05:30 PM   #3
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OVR ratings have stopped meaning anything for years since they added that intangibles rating that’s literally nothing but a lazy OVR booster/decreaser to reflect current general consensus rankings. Probably started doing it so you wouldn’t keep getting cases like Dirk in his absolute prime never even sniffing 88 OVR despite already having basically maxed out shooting ratings
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Old 07-16-2019, 05:40 PM   #4
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I wouldn’t care if my favorite player was rated an 85 as long as he played like his real life counterpart
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:20 PM   #5
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Re: Overall Ratings do NOT Accurately Represent On-Court Value

And for players like Harden, Jokic, Steph Curry, 2k will artificially enhance other ratings (when intangibles, offensive awareness and defensive awareness dont get the job done) for the sake of achieving that precious overall number
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Old 07-18-2019, 03:21 AM   #6
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Just made a long *** post about this elsewhere, but this is spot on.


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Old 07-18-2019, 03:26 PM   #7
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Yup!

I'm guessing 2K feels it's necessary to give gamers a quick way to assess a player. I'd like to see it hidden or removed altogether. Individual ratings obviously tell a more accurate truth.
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Old 07-19-2019, 02:16 AM   #8
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We have been having this same convo for 15 years.

Well said OP
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