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Old 09-24-2019, 01:39 AM   #9
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Re: Perimeter Defense Rating (NBA 2K20)

PG ISOLATION DEFENSE (2016-2019)
100+ Possessions (Bold = 200+ Possessions)
0.73 Derrick Rose
0.77 Eric Bledsoe
0.78 Dennis Schroder
0.79 John Wall
0.79 Kemba Walker
0.79 Elfrid Payton
0.79 Isaiah Thomas (Primarily from Celtics seasons)
0.80 LeBron James - SF for four seasons (316 poss)
0.80 Mike Conley
0.81 Evan Turner - SF for three seasons
0.81 Patty Mills
0.82 Stephen Curry (333 poss)
0.82 Chris Paul
0.83 Kyle Lowry
0.85 Russell Westbrook
0.85 Ben Simmons
0.85 Lonzo Ball
0.85 Goran Dragic
0.85 J.J. Barea
0.85 Ish Smith
0.86 Victor Oladipo - SG for four seasons
0.86 Matthew Dellavedova
0.87 Damian Lillard
0.87 Reggie Jackson
0.87 George Hill
0.88 Ricky Rubio (287 poss)
0.88 Austin Rivers - spent lots of time at SG
0.89 Kris Dunn
0.90 Lou Williams
0.92 De'Aaron Fox
0.93 Cory Joseph - Spends lots of time at SG
0.95 Justise Winslow - SF for three seasons
0.95 Jeff Teague (198 poss)
0.95 Michael Carter-Williams
0.96 T.J. McConnell
0.97 Kyrie Irving
0.97 Tim Frazier
0.98 Tyus Jones
0.99 D.J. Augustin
0.99 Spencer Dinwiddie
0.99 Yogi Ferrell
1.00 Patrick Beverley
1.00 Tomas Satoransky
1.04 Terry Rozier
1.06 Rajon Rondo
1.07 Jamal Murray

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Old 09-24-2019, 01:53 AM   #10
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Does this data sway any ratings?

ISOLATION DEFENSE (2016-2019)
100+ Possessions (Bold = 200+ Possessions)
0.73 Derrick Rose = 67
0.77 Eric Bledsoe = 93
0.78 Dennis Schroder = 73
0.79 John Wall = 85
0.79 Kemba Walker = 75
0.79 Elfrid Payton = 80
0.79 Isaiah Thomas = 47
0.80 LeBron James = 87
0.80 Mike Conley = 85
0.81 Evan Turner = 74
0.81 Patty Mills = 65
0.82 Stephen Curry = 75
0.82 Chris Paul = 91
0.83 Kyle Lowry = 86
0.85 Russell Westbrook = 83
0.85 Ben Simmons = 84
0.85 Lonzo Ball = 84
0.85 Goran Dragic = 73
0.85 J.J. Barea = 64
0.85 Ish Smith = 74
0.86 Victor Oladipo = 91
0.86 Matthew Dellavedova = 82
0.87 Damian Lillard = 69
0.87 Reggie Jackson = 74
0.87 George Hill = 75
0.88 Ricky Rubio = 78
0.88 Austin Rivers = 82
0.89 Kris Dunn = 79
0.90 Lou Williams = 65
0.92 De'Aaron Fox = 79
0.93 Cory Joseph = 80
0.95 Justise Winslow = 78
0.95 Jeff Teague = 78
0.95 Michael Carter-Williams = 75
0.96 T.J. McConnell = 74
0.97 Kyrie Irving = 73
0.97 Tim Frazier = 69
0.98 Tyus Jones = 57
0.99 D.J. Augustin = 60
0.99 Spencer Dinwiddie = 74
0.99 Yogi Ferrell = 64
1.00 Patrick Beverley = 92
1.00 Tomas Satoransky = 71
1.04 Terry Rozier = 75
1.06 Rajon Rondo = 80
1.07 Jamal Murray = 70
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For the record, posted ratings are the 2K defaults.

Using this as an exercise to see if my personal scale needs adjusting.

Currently recording all the Isolation Synergy data from the last four years. Samples are getting lower every year. PGs for example don't really Isolate, its mostly PNR.

Bledsoe's 4-year score is 0.77 PPP if I remember correctly. I think he was around 0.92 last year, but in only 36 possessions (0.63 the prior season is more reflective of his ability).

50th Percentile last season I think was 0.88 PPP.
0.77 PPP in a large sample would certainly merit 90ish rating

My bad. Tks for clarifying.
Looking at past 4 yrs records is a lot of work. I kept it to regular season stats only, and dig further if there are missing players eg Kristap. I was working on the 3 pt shot ratings last year as they were pretty off as well as isolation tendencies.

I have a hard time with player speed. You have any stats? The nba stats on distance per mile coverage doesnt seem to represent player speed well. I wanted to differentiate the bigs from the small.


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Does this data sway any ratings?



ISOLATION DEFENSE (2016-2019)

100+ Possessions (Bold = 200+ Possessions)

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Define isolation defense. What does it mean by 0.77 for bledsoe vs 1.07 (Jamal Murray)?



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Define isolation defense. What does it mean by 0.77 for bledsoe vs 1.07 (Jamal Murray)?



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If your opponent scores every time he facing you, your PPP is 2 (more considering 3 point play) That means lower is the number, the player you defende score less.
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I have a hard time with player speed. You have any stats? The nba stats on distance per mile coverage doesnt seem to represent player speed well. I wanted to differentiate the bigs from the small.

Regarding speed Iím currently using this formula on my roster based on the 3/4 court sprint time at the combine:

[1-(Time - 2.97)]*100
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Regarding speed Iím currently using this formula on my roster based on the 3/4 court sprint time at the combine:

[1-(Time - 2.97)]*100

Then Iíll make Ī3 based on the player
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If your opponent scores every time he facing you, your PPP is 2 (more considering 3 point play) That means lower is the number, the player you defende score less.
Is usage rate for the player they're guarding a factor? I.e. does the possession not count if their man isn't taking the shot?
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