Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

[Kushmir]

Well...let's discuss: Should this shot drop? For some history I lost a game earlier this year to HOU where Harden did the same thing on a contested midrange fall-away to beat the shot clock. But this is Willie. Cauley. Stein....who's NOT set. [emoji58]

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Earlier it was Harden so I was ok with it after some thought--IMO good shooters should have leeway...thats ok IMO. Kinda like Klay does below. And on a sidenote: This is why I prefer for most of this stuff to be under-the-hood. Any other year i'm blissfully unaware that his release was THIS BAD. But who knows, maybe we can help the devs better tune now that we see so much.

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IMO Some of the randomness of the shot system is good. It makes the game organic and unscripted....but should a shot's success from this bad a shooter need better criteria? Maybe it can only go in with a SLIGHTLY or EXCELLENT release. Tell me what you guys think.....

[jk31]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Well...let's discuss: Should this shot drop? For some history I lost a game earlier this year to HOU where Harden did the same thing on a contested midrange fall-away to beat the shot clock. But this is Willie. Cauley. Stein....who's NOT set. [emoji58]

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Earlier it was Harden so I was ok with it after some thought--IMO good shooters should have leeway...thats ok IMO. Kinda like Klay does below. And on a sidenote: This is why I prefer for most of this stuff to be under-the-hood. Any other year i'm blissfully unaware that his release was THIS BAD. But who knows, maybe we can help the devs better tune now that we see so much.

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IMO Some of the randomness of the shot system is good. It makes the game organic and unscripted....but should a shot's success from this bad a shooter need better criteria? Maybe it can only go in with a SLIGHTLY or EXCELLENT release. Tell me what you guys think.....

49 3pt rating is 24 pts higher than the minimum rating. a shot, especially a Bad Times shot, will Not go in very likely. but even a very low Chance means, that There is a Chance. if this shot has a Chance to go in of 1% that means 99 Times He will miss, but the 100th will go in. let him take that shot 10 Times, i doubt that He will make it more than once.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Hey we wanted corner shooting buffed right? [emoji38]

Jk.

Should it go in? Nah.
Is it beyond the realm of possibility? Nah.

I think this is just a "Come on 2k" and keep it moving instance. The shot visibility just makes it sting a bit more, lol

[Kushmir]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Even a very low Chance means, that There is a Chance. if this shot has a Chance to go in of 1% that means 99 Times He will miss, but the 100th will go in. let him take that shot 10 Times, i doubt that He will make it more than once.

Tend to agree. I just wish this kind of thing happened less in 5 minute quarters. The game is short--feels like unlikely instances should happen even less.

[keshunleon]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Should it go in, maybe there is always a chance.

My biggest issue is that he is standing (or running)at the 3 line!

I normally play with and against every team to see how they play, run plays, or change each game. One of the biggest problems is none 3pt shooting PFs and Cs standing, standing at the 3pt line.

[jdiz619]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Well...let's discuss: Should this shot drop? For some history I lost a game earlier this year to HOU where Harden did the same thing on a contested midrange fall-away to beat the shot clock. But this is Willie. Cauley. Stein....who's NOT set. [emoji58]

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Earlier it was Harden so I was ok with it after some thought--IMO good shooters should have leeway...thats ok IMO. Kinda like Klay does below. And on a sidenote: This is why I prefer for most of this stuff to be under-the-hood. Any other year i'm blissfully unaware that his release was THIS BAD. But who knows, maybe we can help the devs better tune now that we see so much.

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IMO Some of the randomness of the shot system is good. It makes the game organic and unscripted....but should a shot's success from this bad a shooter need better criteria? Maybe it can only go in with a SLIGHTLY or EXCELLENT release. Tell me what you guys think.....

It's a known issue this year with 2k20

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[jeebs9]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Hey we wanted corner shooting buffed right? [emoji38]

Jk.

Should it go in? Nah.
Is it beyond the realm of possibility? Nah.

I think this is just a "Come on 2k" and keep it moving instance. The shot visibility just makes it sting a bit more, lol

NO ****ing way 24th!!!!!!! We can't have this!!!!! David West is retired!!! WCS isn't his replacement.

The bottom line really is that means this totally confirms shooting has been messed up. All those shots I've been complaining about in the other thread. These are kind of shoots we'll see all season long. How many 3 pointers has WCS hit? Here I'll tell you. 4. He's taken 18 in his career. When people say what you just said. It's just a 2k moment. No... We can't have that stuff show up in 5 minute quarter games. That's beyond frustrating

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

NO ****ing way 24th!!!!!!! We can't have this!!!!! David West is retired!!! WCS isn't his replacement.

The bottom line really is that means this totally confirms shooting has been messed up. All those shots I've been complaining about in the other thread. These are kind of shoots we'll see all season long. How many 3 pointers has WCS hit? Here I'll tell you. 4. He's taken 18 in his career. When people say what you just said. It's just a 2k moment. No... We can't have that stuff show up in 5 minute quarter games. That's beyond frustrating

Oh believe me, this is why I've had my reservations on shooting being ticked up. Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can do situational adjustments (i.e JUST wide open shots with good shooters etc.) so we have to look at the broader view. We run the risk of seeing more of this as a result.

but unless this happens often, and this year I haven't been seeing this much AT ALL, once you get out of the frustration of the moment you just have to take it in stride and not overreact to it. I mean I play MyTeam and I'm not even seeing a myriad of bad shots fall for bad shooters..

[Kushmir]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

How many 3 pointers has WCS hit? Here I'll tell you. 4. He's taken 18 in his career. When people say what you just said. It's just a 2k moment. No... We can't have that stuff show up in 5 minute quarter games.

I'm with Jeebs here...5 min quarters are just too short for the low percentage stuff to have any kind of real success rate. I hit my first half-court shot this year....EVERRRRRR. Guess what? That's good. It makes it mean something:

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Oh...and THIS just happened with Ben:

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[ifeanyi18]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

The shooting penalty system is actually just broken. Not sure if they're aware. My friends and I noticed a bunch of very early/late releases going in. I went to freestyle to test, shot 100 shots with Geogrge Hill with a slightly early release made 40/100. Shot 100 shots with a Very early release, he made 43/100. The shooting is broken right now.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

That shot should NEVER go in on a late release with that low of a shooting rating.

[jeebs9]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Oh believe me, this is why I've had my reservations on shooting being ticked up. Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can do situational adjustments (i.e JUST wide open shots with good shooters etc.) so we have to look at the broader view. We run the risk of seeing more of this as a result.

but unless this happens often, and this year I haven't been seeing this much AT ALL, once you get out of the frustration of the moment you just have to take it in stride and not overreact to it. I mean I play MyTeam and I'm not even seeing a myriad of bad shots fall for bad shooters..

"Often", shouldn't be a thing. WCS, who again has hit 4 three-pointer in his whole career. Is able to hit one 3 pointers every game you play someone with him. When we joke about David West. I know why David was hitting in those cycles. Because of his badges. He's known as the "mid-range assassin" catch and shoot didn't have a zone for mid-range. It was any type of catch and shoot. That's why I can laugh at it lol. But WCS has no shooting badges to speak of That should be alarming.

I'm with Jeebs here...5 min quarters are just too short for the low percentage stuff to have any kind of real success rate. I hit my first half-court shot this year....EVERRRRRR. Guess what? That's good. It makes it mean something:

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Oh...and THIS just happened with Ben:

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And the above is exactly what I'm talking about. Now, someone might hit a 3 with a bad shooter. Who doesn't even have shooting badges? Once or twice a game.

The shooting penalty system is actually just broken. Not sure if they're aware. My friends and I noticed a bunch of very early/late releases going in. I went to freestyle to test, shot 100 shots with Geogrge Hill with a slightly early release made 40/100. Shot 100 shots with a Very early release, he made 43/100. The shooting is broken right now.

Yup...

And to add....I loved this game last week. But if bad shooters will be bailed out like this. Imagine a decently rated shooter. That's what I've been experiencing. Decently shooter feeling like Klay Thompson.

[WarMMA]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

The WCS shot should definitely NOT have went in. I just don't think bad shooters should have that kind of leeway if they screw up shot timing. Sure they should still have that 1 out of 100 chance of hitting a shot, but only if the release is decent. If they screw up the release like WCS did, should be a miss every time imo.

[jeebs9]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

That shot should NEVER go in on a late release with that low of a shooting rating.

Agree, it's either perfect or Open the door for Greens to miss. There should be no perfect release

[keshunleon]

Re: Very Late Release, 49-3pt rating

Agree, it's either perfect or Open the door for Greens to miss. There should be no perfect release

I talked about this in another thread, get rid of 100% green releases.

WCS 3pt is a 49:
1. why is it a 49?

I wish 2K would utilize players real percentages.