Teams with two 7'3s in Rec shouldnt even be competitive.

[howardphillips214]

Why are 7'3s even viable? They have the worst ratings out of any big but they don't play like it. If I've got a FIFTY point speed differential, why isn't that reflected in the game? If I've got a TWENTY point vertical advantage, why isn't that enough to punish them for being so huge? I get it... Size is everything in 2k. But it's been a problem for YEARS.

The 7'1s and 7'2s are a cake walk. I can demolish them on the glass at 6'7 and I'm a SF. Especially if they're not even a rebounding build. Stretch at the 4? It's a breeze. Post scorer? No problem. But that magical number of 7'3 just gifts them rebounds regardless of rating and badges. I'll have them boxed OUTSIDE the paint and they can jump THROUGH my body for a rebound.

And how is it that when they have 2 in the paint CONSTANTLY they can just rebound and miss and rebound and miss and rebound and miss until it goes?

How is it they can set a screen at the top of the key and crash before the shot comes off the rim? It's just sad.

Really makes you not want to play.

[Korrupted]

Re: Teams with two 7'3s in Rec shouldnt even be competitive.

The speed of bigs have always been an issue and even with the nerf to 7'3 centers they still move pretty quick but you can't really sit here and think a 6'7 SF should go toe to toe with a 7'3 center man lol.

[howardphillips214]

Re: Teams with two 7'3s in Rec shouldnt even be competitive.

The speed of bigs have always been an issue and even with the nerf to 7'3 centers they still move pretty quick but you can't really sit here and think a 6'7 SF should go toe to toe with a 7'3 center man lol.

I dominate everyone else at that position with bball IQ. I'm not saying that i shouldnt get ate if they were half decent. I've had bigs that will post me up and back me all the way into the paint like a rag doll. But I'm 218 lbs and they're max weight. I should be STREAKING on the break. But they go step for step with me.

[Thrustie]

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I think they did a better job of making them slow up and down the court. My smaller Center can beat them down the court pretty handily although it could be argued the gap should be bigger. I think they have a lot of work to do as far as making them less agile in the half court. They still recover too quickly and some of the chasedown animations they get are silly.

That said, smaller Centers have never been more viable than this year. The rebounding feels less OP for 7’3 Centers so at least they’ve addressed some of the issues.

[BasketBalla21]

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The 7'1s and 7'2s are a cake walk. I can demolish them on the glass at 6'7 and I'm a SF. Especially if they're not even a rebounding build. Stretch at the 4? It's a breeze. Post scorer? No problem. But that magical number of 7'3 just gifts them rebounds regardless of rating and badges. I'll have them boxed OUTSIDE the paint and they can jump THROUGH my body for a rebound.

So you want to out-rebound 7'3 glass cleaners with a 6'7 player? I'm not understanding your actual complaint.

And how is it that when they have 2 in the paint CONSTANTLY they can just rebound and miss and rebound and miss and rebound and miss until it goes?

...because they are 7'3 glass cleaners. That's their skillset. If you let them both into the paint of course they are going to dominate the glass.

How is it they can set a screen at the top of the key and crash before the shot comes off the rim? It's just sad.

...because the secondary benefit of a pick and roll is freeing up the big man to crash the glass. If both defenders follow the ball handler without anyone else rotating to box out the big he has a free lane. That's simple basketball.

[ItchyNscratchy]

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And how is it that when they have 2 in the paint CONSTANTLY they can just rebound and miss and rebound and miss and rebound and miss until it goes?

This is actually the problem with defense. This right here is the spam blockers problem that do this because you are not grounded and ready to rebound the miss. So when the offense attempts the shot first, defenders always jump second. You just defined 90% of 2k players like this.

There were times where i was the rockets playing against bucks and this guy would literally just try to drive in with giannis and dunk but i used russell westbrook and ONLY use right stick hands up defense. NEVER DO I EVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BLOCK. And this results in me getting the rebound.

[howardphillips214]

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The Mavs have 2 legit 7'3 players and Boban hardly sees the court. In 2k you can see they clearly favor height because Boban is typically starting in MyCareer even tho he can't shoot and is too heavy footed for today's game IRL. He constantly gets double digit rebounds in 20 minutes a game. That could be inflated ratings and badges but I'm willing to bet he is just big. KP has enough offensive and defensive prowess to justify his height. But Boban has never garnered starting minutes since he's been in the league due to his size being a hindrance.

I never said i should dominate them on the glass. I'm saying that having 2 giants that can't shoot and won't spread the floor should be such a cluster**** in the paint that it should be more trouble than it's worth. 6'7 is NOT undersized at the 4 in today's modern NBA. I'm not a shooter, but someone with my defensive capabilities and finishing would always have a job in today's league. Draymond can run the 5 no problem and i never said i wanted to do that.

My speed alone should make bigs think twice about being that big at the 4. Let alone my help defense.

[howardphillips214]

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If you've been following me the last couple years I've been saying that speed and athleticism is completely undervalued in this game. If rookie Shaq came into this league right now he would dominate even harder than he did when he was a rookie. The league has gotten soft. But when Shaq was young he dominated the regular season till the playoffs when he was only a pick and roll player. When they made it to the Finals Hakeem, who was undersized but every bit as strong as Shaq, exposed his game. It wasn't till he went to LA and got fat and slow that he had to round out his game. Using post hooks and being a better passer helped him dominate to the tune of 3 titles.

Just because you're a giant doesn't mean you can play in the NBA. I'm sure there are plenty of 7 foot people who don't play in the NBA. Manut Bohl comes to mind. He was HUGE and was in the league FOREVER because he never really played. He was often the last man in the rotation but always had a job JUST IN CASE.

There have been plenty of smaller bigs (Ben Wallace) that could play because of the system they were in and also because they did something exceptionally well that other GIANTS couldn't do. How many players were over 7 foot that have FOUR DPOY awards? 0.

There's no such thing as an athletic big in the Rec. You get tons of Slashers who get slotted at the 4, but I'll tell you ANYTIME I'm at the 4 i get excited when i see that slasher icon. I'm like... "GREAT! I can help off and play the passing lanes all game!"

It's truly ugly to watch even the "good" teams on this game. They ALL have shooters 1-3 and they ALL have the Bail Out badge. If a non athletic player drives the lane and they feel they're not going to get an easy layup they kick it out mid air to a wide open shooter. Doing 360 spins and contorting their bodies in no humanly possible way but that ball ZIPS right to the shooter for GREEN!

Only reason i play rec is because career gets boring and park is just painful to play.

My two finishing players are at the 3 and the 1. I feel like in career they play ABOVE their abilities. I can hit 3s, drive the lane, play defense. But online I'm relegated to playing defense and scoring in transition. I'm non existent in the half court because it's too easy to play the passing lanes on back door cuts and lobs.

As recently as 2k18 Slashers were like "oh crap...." Because you COULDN'T stop them 1 on 1. You had to send help otherwise it was curtains. I still felt they were underpowered because i couldn't even hit a midrange or play solid defense.

But this year the ONLY way I'm effective is by playing help D and crashing. Which I'm ok with... The problem is im being neutralized by someone a foot taller and 100 pounds heavier. Whereas, i should be EXCITED when i see someone that big because i should be able to take them off the dribble, be 100 feet ahead of them in transition and ESPECIALLY in the pick and roll i should be able to KILL them.

[ImInThis]

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I can lock down 7'3 centers with a 6'11-7'1 if I have 99 strength.

With my 7'1 Center you aren't scoring on my that easy. 99 strength, Gold Rim Protector, and my shot block is 81 boosted. Only thing is I wish I could get another gold badge. Hustle Rebound, Box out, Rim Protector, and Moving Truck, you aren't scoring on me.


ANd on offense? Well I can shoot 3s. This build is only a 85 ovr too.

[howardphillips214]

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Update: so apparently the random center i was with was garbo in retrospect. Just ran 3 games with a full 5. The first game was against 2 legit 7 footers. Idk if the center was 7'3 but my man was only 7'1. Both were rebounding lockdown centers. I was at the 4 and our 5 was a 6'9 two way athletic. They didn't score the first quarter and ended up quitting. We out rebounded them as well, i think i had 4 and our 5 had 7 in the first. After they quit tho, that's when they're AI players started showing up. They still weren't scoring, but they were getting more rebounds. We blew them out, but i still out rebounded the CPU 12-11.

After that first game i had a couple SFs at the 4. Second game was a playmaking slasher, he quit after the first quarter. He didn't get but 1 board and did not score in 5 attempts. The third game i was on a sharpshooting facilitator and he wasn't rebounding, but he shot a good percentage on me because i would be close while he was running around, but when he would call for the ball from the AI it would give him a speed boost on the catch for an open look. If it had been a real team, i would have tried harder to take him out of the game, but we got up big early and i wasn't paying him much attention. I was more so trying to go for blocks and steals.

If used properly, i guess you can be undersized and still dominate with a full team.