Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

[ImInThis]

I'm a big and it's fustrating having to constantly step up to stop the 3 AND stop my man from driving. I deal with this in 95% of games. Fixing this badge would make the game do much better

A buffed Pick Dodger will expose a lot of bums. 5 out will be much harder to use. Guards would need actual skill to get open and bigs won't be able to drive do easy

[howardphillips214]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

I'm a big and it's fustrating having to constantly step up to stop the 3 AND stop my man from driving. I deal with this in 95% of games. Fixing this badge would make the game do much better

A buffed Pick Dodger will expose a lot of bums. 5 out will be much harder to use. Guards would need actual skill to get open and bigs won't be able to drive do easy

What's sad is Pick Dodger HOF < Brick Wall HOF by a WIDE margin. These badges should be equal at least, but i would actually like to see Pick Dodger with the slight edge. Its very difficult to get around ONE screen. Let alone 2-3 screens and sometimes more. The big can reset after you dodge him the first time before you're done with that animation.

It's to the point the "GOOD" players will just hold Circle and hold their nuts for half a second rather than get sucked into an animation.

[loso_34]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

pick dodger is fine.

a lot of people dont let go of both triggers and more importantly dont see the pick coming. you gotta go above or under it cant fight through them and think pick dodger will bail you out

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

pick dodger is fine.



a lot of people dont let go of both triggers and more importantly dont see the pick coming. you gotta go above or under it cant fight through them and think pick dodger will bail you out

I think it's needs a slight buff. If anything, it should help more when the other team is setting 2-3 screens for the guards. To me, it's just a pain in the *** when you successfully navigate the second screen, but the third screen sucks you into an animation due to being too close.

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

I can agree with this. And let's cap it at bronze for pure-offensive builds. There needs to be a risk reward these builds.

[BasketBalla21]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

I don't think it's the badge that is the problem. There is a problem with how the game animates you through screens. You can try to go over screens and the game will animate you going under the screen.

In 2k17 brick wall was a problem because it would put you on the ground every possession but this year the problem is deeper than badges.

[tru11]

Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

Nah when the opponent sets 2 or more screens it should be your teammates that should help you more, rather then stand in the paint holding their nuts just to grab a board.

The badge works fine against a single screen.
Tbh bronze is all you need.

Since its in 3rd person you should see the screen coming and depending on who you are guarding should go over and under.

Do it good and you can get the illegal screen called.

Quite frankly that pen should get a huge buff as their are to many moving screens as players arent set most of the time and can suck you into an animation.


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[Vroman]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

2k already gone too far with badges playing things out for players. Its just adding problem to solve another problem and in the end its not balanced , but more of a clustered canned animation fest of a gameplay.

Guarding pnr should be first and foremost depending on your ability to read the situation and move player in time and communiction with ur teammate. Not the badge level deciding if you gonna be playing good defense or not.

PNR defense/offense was already very balanced in 2k16, you either setup proper screen or its moving pick foul if u try to move around and tackle defender. But because of hof level badges introduction and hof brick wall that design was stripped from the game.

[YungGun]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

While I agree that pick dodger definitely needs a buff, if the other defender helps on the screen, it makes getting screened much easier to deal with. I play guard a lot in 2K and I hate it when I'm getting screened all day and my big is literally camped in the paint in no man's land. And even if I'm not necessarily getting hit by the screens, trying to maneuver around them is just as much of a hassle because of how slow we are on defense.

[howardphillips214]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

While I agree that pick dodger definitely needs a buff, if the other defender helps on the screen, it makes getting screened much easier to deal with. I play guard a lot in 2K and I hate it when I'm getting screened all day and my big is literally camped in the paint in no man's land. And even if I'm not necessarily getting hit by the screens, trying to maneuver around them is just as much of a hassle because of how slow we are on defense.

Ok but what about long super spaced wraps.. Most of the time 2 guards can play the circle game without a screen. You have to be on your ps and qs for those. Throw in a double screen with a shooter spaced in the opposite corner? It's curtains.

Switch 5 is a real thing in the NBA, it's not switch 5 5 times in a single possession tho.

The thing that REALLY gets me tho?

3 shooters spread so far it's LITERALLY a 2 man game 4 quarters. If you can switch the match up to get your best wing defender on it, it's somewhat doable. But as a 6'5 or under guard with all HOF badges it's impossible. The 6'7s can recover with length, but can switch and guard the big if need be.

Teams that PNR one on one the entire game are death of done right.

It's something I've said all year. They wouldn't do it if i wasnt so successful

[howardphillips214]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

Nah when the opponent sets 2 or more screens it should be your teammates that should help you more, rather then stand in the paint holding their nuts just to grab a board.

The badge works fine against a single screen.
Tbh bronze is all you need.

Since its in 3rd person you should see the screen coming and depending on who you are guarding should go over and under.

Do it good and you can get the illegal screen called.

Quite frankly that pen should get a huge buff as their are to many moving screens as players arent set most of the time and can suck you into an animation.


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You know what? I'm going to give you credit. You finally said something that isn't total buuullll.

Pick dodger does work petty nice on Bronze.

You know what's wrong with that?

It works exactly NONE better on higher levels. Do you see how that's messed up?

Sure... The animations are SLIGHTLY quicker. There are times where I'll SPIN RIGHT AROUND a guard screen. Sure... But HOF brick wall? Doomed.

Stamina is jacked off ONE brick wall animation the rest of the game with Gatorade, Gym Rat and 99 stamina. Every screen after that? Death, death, death.

It's seriously death by a thousand cuts. Oh and HOF tireless defender? Forget it. Worthless.

So you mean you tell me that ONE BADGE can overpower MULTIPLE HOF badges a 90+ lateral quickness and perimeter defense?


Might as well have a 70 lateral and a bunch of bronze badges for a jump shot on offense. That's why you see almost EXCLUSIVELY offensive builds on the wings. I guess it's better than going up against LDDs that can shoot and rip the ball every possession like last year.

But it's always night and day every year. Defensive builds have their place, the rebounding wing is King at the 3 and 4.

But no "COMP" teams run the 2-way playmaker at the 1.

[tru11]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

You know what? I'm going to give you credit. You finally said something that isn't total buuullll.



Pick dodger does work petty nice on Bronze.



You know what's wrong with that?



It works exactly NONE better on higher levels. Do you see how that's messed up?



Sure... The animations are SLIGHTLY quicker. There are times where I'll SPIN RIGHT AROUND a guard screen. Sure... But HOF brick wall? Doomed.



Stamina is jacked off ONE brick wall animation the rest of the game with Gatorade, Gym Rat and 99 stamina. Every screen after that? Death, death, death.



It's seriously death by a thousand cuts. Oh and HOF tireless defender? Forget it. Worthless.



So you mean you tell me that ONE BADGE can overpower MULTIPLE HOF badges a 90+ lateral quickness and perimeter defense?





Might as well have a 70 lateral and a bunch of bronze badges for a jump shot on offense. That's why you see almost EXCLUSIVELY offensive builds on the wings. I guess it's better than going up against LDDs that can shoot and rip the ball every possession like last year.



But it's always night and day every year. Defensive builds have their place, the rebounding wing is King at the 3 and 4.



But no "COMP" teams run the 2-way playmaker at the 1.

Is there anything in this game that you don’t struggle with?

Using just bronze pick dodger and no tireless defender i dont experience your struggles with hof brickwall...

If you cant even deal with hof brickwall using hof pickdodger and/or hof tireless defender then well the problem probably aint the badge but...









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[howardphillips214]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

Is there anything in this game that you don’t struggle with?

Using just bronze pick dodger and no tireless defender i dont experience your struggles with hof brickwall...

If you cant even deal with hof brickwall using hof pickdodger and/or hof tireless defender then well the problem probably aint the badge but...









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See... And this is how i know you're full of it.

You never counter with anything but "well then... You must just suck. WORKS FOR ME."

Alright bro. You're the 2k god.

But us poor regular folks want to CRITIQUE the game hoping we get a better product one day.

If you love 2k20 so much, just play it forever bro. Just don't ever upgrade. Never make another post.

I'll have plenty of gripes about 2k21 that I'm sure you're just going to claim is my imagination.


Gonna put this out there...

Offered to match up with squads and play you 1 on 1. Any mode. You declined.

So let's not keep trying to flex your nut muscles at me bro.

[tru11]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

See... And this is how i know you're full of it.



You never counter with anything but "well then... You must just suck. WORKS FOR ME."



Alright bro. You're the 2k god.



But us poor regular folks want to CRITIQUE the game hoping we get a better product one day.



If you love 2k20 so much, just play it forever bro. Just don't ever upgrade. Never make another post.



I'll have plenty of gripes about 2k21 that I'm sure you're just going to claim is my imagination.





Gonna put this out there...



Offered to match up with squads and play you 1 on 1. Any mode. You declined.



So let's not keep trying to flex your nut muscles at me bro.

I have no doubt you will have gripes with whatever game you decide to play.

Just like i have no doubt that you wont be open to any opinion different that yours.

Like i dont doubt that when you have no arguments you will resort to personal attacks and childish challenges.

Im not a 2K god, which is why im open to what other people say so they can help me become a better player.

Maybe you should give that a try?

Plenty guys have a long history with this serie and understand the mechanics and can translate their understanding of basketball to this game.

Perhaps you might understand when something is an issue with an animation, badge ect or in most cases simply human error.

Take this thread.

Pick dodger works fine in dealing with a single screen if you know how to go over or under.
No badge should help you go through a screener.

Just like no badge should help you go through multiple screens.

With multiple screens there should be help defense from your teammates as basketball still is a team game.








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[howardphillips214]

Re: Pick dodger needs to be a top tier badge come 2k21

I have no doubt you will have gripes with whatever game you decide to play.

Just like i have no doubt that you wont be open to any opinion different that yours.

Like i dont doubt that when you have no arguments you will resort to personal attacks and childish challenges.

Im not a 2K god, which is why im open to what other people say so they can help me become a better player.

Maybe you should give that a try?

Plenty guys have a long history with this serie and understand the mechanics and can translate their understanding of basketball to this game.

Perhaps you might understand when something is an issue with an animation, badge ect or in most cases simply human error.

Take this thread.

Pick dodger works fine in dealing with a single screen if you know how to go over or under.
No badge should help you go through a screener.

Just like no badge should help you go through multiple screens.

With multiple screens there should be help defense from your teammates as basketball still is a team game.








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Ok... Keep championing the good fight. I refuse to quibble with a child